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Prepare for trouble and make it double. This is continuation of the discussion started in the Leekaloid thread. The idea is to make two mirror image voicebanks FOR DIFFSINGER. One will be female, the other will be male. Poast auditions.
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Male should have Gekiyaku (V6)'s hair style. Female should have Kazehiki's hair style. I can't draw right now but trust me.
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If you give them tanned skin my life is yours.

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>>16012
Seconding
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i am here, the deity that i am, apple miku.

greetings to all the anons reading this post. i am apple miku, the deity who brings fortune and blessings to those who need them in their highest form. my duty is to bless this thread so that the new project may bear fruit like the apple tree that is my being.

good luck and peace to all involved in the project!
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>>16041
Don't fail us

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made bases to draw outfits on. the guy is tall and spindly. i didnt have the paper real estate to properly reflect that. the girl is short and athletic. she has a larger, more muscular build. as a previous anon suggested, tanned skin would be nice for them. but honestly i think we should go darker than that. you dont see a lot of darker vocal synths. its sad. its fun to draw and a variety of skin tones look nice next to each other and make for a wider variety of designs. anyway, the girl probably spends more time in the sun than the guy, so she'd have more of a tan than the guy does. id visualize what i mean but i dont have all of my art supplies and do not have the necessary colors for any sort of skin tone that isnt like... neon or rainbow.
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>>16570
neat. girl's hair should probably be this type of short though.
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>>16570
I'm thinking they should look more vocaloid-y. Think headphones and belts and all that stuff. Also same color palette as the Meikas / Kotonohas.
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>>16574
excuse the 2013 tumblr art style btw
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>>16574
anon, this makes it way
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>>16582
way better
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hey yall. back at it again with the same unappealing art style taking into account the changes suggested here.
still naked, still have generic placeholder faces. if anyone has ideas, you can draw them on to this now that ive scanned it.
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>>16758
give them moe faces

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my face preference on top.
on the bottom is what i assume >>16759 wanted. sorry i accidentally made the girl look like piko. ive never tried to draw like like that before so cut me some slack if it kinda stucks.
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>>16764
>made the girl look like piko
Wait no this is perfect
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>>16765
which one? apologies for being dense
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>>16766
the one that's actually a girl
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>>16767
no i meant which drawings? the ones on top or on the bottom?
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>>16768
I personally like both. I feel like the first one strikes a perfect balance though.
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How do we even make a voicebank in the first place?
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>>16773
Someone records it and oto's it (or has someone else oto it, which was Sena's case).
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>>16773
Are you new here or something? check the downloads page
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>>16773
first the design is made, and then the bio, and then someone makes the actual voicebank. an admin notices it and uploads it to TCC (a.k.a the downloads page).
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bump
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>>16764
Top is better
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does anybody have ideas for how to dress them?
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>>17291
Pinterest is good for ideas. Maybe the girl should wear something like this, some blue pastel clothing that looks boyish.
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>>17292
see i was thinking like... adam sandler/butch lesbian sillouette with a baby blue and black color scheme with a lot of straps and metal hardware. ive never used pinterest before so my main inspiration comes from people watching in places with different clothing expectations.
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>>17293
God, you reminded me of this site's first fanloid
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>>17294
What's the story behind Adamsan
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>>17296
There's an old Leon design by the Japanese community and someone in the Engloid thread thought it was based off Adam Sandler

See >>4669
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drawing up some outfits for them as we speak. if you have a suggestion, say it now and i will get on it immediately
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>>17294
Osana wasn't first?
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>>17294
He should be added to TCC
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>>17306
Adamsan was the first one to come out of /leek/
There were a few "fanloids" made on /o/ but I don't think /leek/ wants to claim them
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Maybe they should have the same voice provider the way Rin and Len are voiced by one person
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bump
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We should just do one. It's gonna be hard finding two VPs.
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>>17654
Seconding. Also activity went down a little.
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>>17654
One person voicing both? Maybe the samples can be pitched in post so it'll still just be recording for one
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>>17660
Yeah this. give em the rin/len treatment.
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>>17660
This. Have one person voice both.
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Hijacking this thread to bring this here
>>19155
>>19183
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>>19185
Maybe have two voice providers per bank and have them do one sound per file (example: one anon does "ka", another anon does "ke", first anon does "ki", second anon does "ko", etc). The real question is where do we get VPs now that they're all gone.
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>>19285
By performing summoning rituals
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Unfortunately I am too neurotic and too much going on in my life to expose my voice
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did you guys want the outfits to be tenshi key?
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>>20149
Go for it
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>>20149
Yeah. Unique clothes is what made TORI stand out among the other leekas.
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two voice banks from one person on diffsinger? a recipe for a voicebank that wont come out in 8 months once actually started
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>>20682
utau not ds
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>>20684
OP says for diffsinger.
And even if someone did do utau leek will want diff right with how other leeka threads go
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I think we should do a single leeka instead of two
The former just isnt doable
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I vote to start from scratch. Maybe we can start with a design first then we can think what type of voice would suit it?. Personally I want a tomboy/punk style leeka like V Flower.
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>>22059
I like that idea but when i think of a tomboyish or punk female character i think of voices like Ado and 96neko/kuroneko. Unless we have someone femanon here who can do their best masculine voice it's gonna be hard.
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>>22062
I mean, all you gotta do is try. You don't need to be a professional singer / voice actor.
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We should have another overdesigned 'loid like riko
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>>22059
>>22062
i second the idea for a punk tomboy

i was trying to push for that earlier in teh thread, then my workload for other stuff increased significantly and i had to drop it. i can create design mockups but it wont be in a timely manner
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>>22068
I'll try to design something and i guess you or the other anons can improve upon it or completely redesign it if necessary. In the mean time I'd say start auditioning to everyone else who isn't an artist, post them vocaroos.
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>>22062
I posted this already, but someone called it androgynous at the time.
https://vocaroo.com/11k7wJtaqDGH [Embed]
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>>22072
This works honestly
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>>22072
yeah this is already perfect lol
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heres a cvvc utau i didnt finish otoing. never shared it before. it has power and soft appends recorded too.
https://vocaroo.com/1j8U6HbKusjb [Embed]
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Had something like this in mind
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>>22076
You should link the recordings in case anyone wants to take a crack at the oto
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>>22077
This but in this type of dress
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>>22076
I don't know if you're the same person but this sounds too deep
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>>22081
i see the vision
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Does it HAVE to be a dress? Why not something like this?
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>>22093
Forgot to attach the pic I'm dumb
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>>22072
I like this voice best personally, i feel like it fits the above design even if idk if that will be the used as the base
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>>22105
same here
>>22094
2 or 8 would fit her
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>>22093
i was trying to think of a way to say this without being a dick, so thank you.
>>22094
i was thinking more of images 2, 3, and 4

i accidentally clicked the oekaki button so heres a shitty drawing meant to spitball some ideas. i think that a very large jacket would suit the girl but i do not feel like drawing that right now. i tried to incorporate asymmetry in both of their designs, dropped the ball with the guy, sorry. disregard the red rectangle, that was an accident and i dont know how to get rid of it.
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>>22172
It's a single character btw but i like the look of the first one
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>>22172
Something
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>>22178
She should be blonde imo
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>>22183
Agree
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>>22077
Honestly not really feeling the spike studded choker. I do not know why but part of me wants something flashy with weathers if anything. Not sure why. Just some vibe.

>>22094
I like the fourth from the left, as in one on far right best. Though Id say the top as more like a baggy off the shoulder shirt cropped at the bottom to show just a little tummy so there is a little bit of feminine there while still being tomboyish.
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>>22183
Seconding this
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>>22094
I like 2 the most out of these but let's not include the cross necklace, we already have a leeka with one
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>>22178
Not against your design or anything, but maybe we should move away from cryptonloid look in the big 2026, and the body fishnet is a bit too similar to Toriko. I do like the edgy color palette choice and striped sock.
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god fucking dammit man. my intention with posting >>22172 was to push it in a more tomboyish direction. i had assumed we were still going to be making 2 leekas. i was excited for another male leekaloid :(. if i had gotten back to this early enough, i wouldve said to disregard the second design.
>>22178
i dont want to be rude but i personally find this bland. it combines my least favorite elements from both designs.

>>22183
>>22185
>>22190
>>22193
perhaps something like this? the hair could be blonde with streaks of whatever accent color we go with. i think a vest would be cool on her too. facial piercings would be very cool too.
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>>22195
I find the one on the right too busy and tacky looking unless you swapped the striped shirt for a sheer mesh shirt but those are harder to draw and leans further into more feminine. I don't think the top needs to be tattered it is too busy looking and takes more to draw. One of the versions of off shoulder shirts are just shirts where the neck line is stretched out over the shoulder. I was thinking in my mind more flowy and her belly button just barely shows when arms down but arms up that much is shown. as for a belt there was a Scene trend in the 2000s where guys and girls wore the buckle to the side which might be something to consider. I think why it was a trend is because buckles arent comfy when you bend over so it would be moved to the side. I feel like a jacket defeats the look of an off shoulder shirt unless it was a lighter material just hanging on slouched at the forearms and not worn on the shoulders. Gives a sort of laid back look. Get what I mean?
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thought just popped in my mind going more into my laid back look idea. Goth Crocs lol
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>>22195
I like the ripped shirt, but maybe no striped though since Shinya has a striped one.
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my proposal
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>>22199
Now we're talking
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>>22199
Its okay but if we're going with the goth/punk/emo style this looks far from it. I also think the colors clash a little.
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>>22193
Seconding. Let's move away from the cryptonloid look. And while we're at it I hope Sena can move away from it too for her DS release.
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>>22199
are we ditching the punk aesthetic? this design's okay but there's still room for improvement. also make her boobs bigger fgt.
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>>22195
Facial piercings are ugly
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>>22195
>i was excited for another male leekaloid
Close enough. You're getting a reverse trap.
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i'll brew some designs in a few hours... stay tuned, anons
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>>22207
Ganbatte
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>>22204
I know you're saying this as a joke but her being able to hide them unlike Toriko should be her gimmick
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Have you guys considered giving her a short ponytail like what Len has
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>>22207
best of luck
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>>22216
I like the idea but also i feel like that would make her slightly feminine? I mean people already mistake Len for a girl sometimes
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Can she have shark teeth?
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>>22225
Please
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>>22207
top: two types of pants, studded choker
bottom: two types of pants, scarf

was in the mood of using a chibi artstyle, so i did so

>>22225
this is a nice suggestion, so i included it too
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>>22230
I liked 2 the most
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>>22205
It's okay to be wrong sometimes, it's okay.

>>22230
I do like the cargo pants look more, aswell. but I'm personally leaning towards the scarf
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See if I feel like trying to draws up what I was thinking too

>>22230
Pockets full of snacks for some gap moe.

>>22234
Neck bandana has issue of having so many different potential symbolisms from political, to gang to sexual behind it unless she is a graffiti artist in which she should use a proper respirator but that would look too busy to always have dangling.
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>>22240
You could always make it into a scarf if you really wanted to but honestly i prefer her without anything on her neck except maybe a necklace or a collar, or a choker, or both
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>>22240
what's sexual about a scarf?
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>>22242
bandana*
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>>22242
>>22243
Choking
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>>22242
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code
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I suppose dog tags are also an alternative neck accessory. Probably a choker is more chic and trendy but maybe that isn’t the vibe.
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Personally i'd just go with No.2 from here
Color it if you get the chance
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>>22230
should have kept the hair vents or whatever they are called
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>>22273
Agree, we need a color palette that stands out. TORIKO is probably the best designed Leeka due to the jirai color palette.
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>>22230
Would be perfect if someone colored them
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>>22280
I can give it a shot if the original artist doesn't
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bunch of refs that could help with colors
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Tan is cool, keep the tan
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>>22283
I would go with black, medium grey, purple, blue, and white for clothes and work off from there maybe but that's probably backwards from how it should be decided.
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This is reminding me of Yumi from Hi Hi Puffy Amiyumi
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>>22295
Maybe we could make her hair blue... just maybe
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>>22324
I'd rather a deep purple since it sits somewhere in the realm of realistic and stylized. Some people with black hair it really does look purple in certain lighting. Unless by a little you mean like have the ends have blue in it, I'd think a light blue would work with blonde hair.
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>>22331
You'd rather what?
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>>22331
I guess, but Flower already has purple in her hair, and we don't want to make "Flower 2"
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>>22331
I'd prefer blonde with brown streaks
Something like heather from sh3
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>>22346
I like this idea
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>>22346
Could be a yellow to brown gradient in similar fashion to the first design here >>22283
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>>22283
>>22362
Gradient hair is moe
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NTA, was going to try brainstorm more hair/outfit palettes when i get back
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>>22389
2 is perfect
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So we're going with the bandana?
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Is she going to be just a human?
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>>22397
I mean sure why not? We only have one human leeka
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>>22389
I like first two
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>>22389
turns out creating color palettes is hard, i wanted to do a white + purple one that comes to mind when i see it uncolored, but no matter how hard i try i can't seem to get it to come out right
also after making this i realized some have bare midriff left in, if you don't like it then just imagine it's not there
>>22396
i could go with either
>>22272
>>22240
dog tags and graffiti respirator actually sound pretty cool so i added them to the base to see how they'd look
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>>22435
I like the 3rd one. The purple variants are great too but remind me too much of Flower.
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I thought we weren't gonna use the bandana
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>>22435
those first 3 are pretty sick. i like the 2nd one the most
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>>22435
Can we see how 1-3 would look if the piercings/studs etc. were black?
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>>22443
not that anon but come on, use paint
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>>22446
Still think she'd look better without the bandana
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>>22508
if it ends up being removed then i humbly request she still keep one in her back pocket - on the left side, of course
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>>22510
nah
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>>22435
2nd one on the bottom is the best
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>>22446
Sorry, I was phoneposting. Here's what I meant
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>>22510
PLEASE. that would be so funny
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>>22510
Why
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>>22510
What are we, Tumblr? Give her something cooler like a knife
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>>22616
Both of those are terrible ideas
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>>22616
Anal fisting bandana AND a knife
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>>22620
At that point just dress her like Van Darkholme
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Fisting is 300 bucks
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>>22622
She already has belts and spikes
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>>22619
>>22616
You guys should be banned from chara design lol
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>>22623
LOID NEXT DOOR
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You know, with all these Gachi jokes maybe we could integrate one into her bio
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Consider the following
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>>22631
okay i like this idea more than the previous ones but i think the design would benefit from having spikes somewhere at least
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>>22631
This looks a bit more girly but still tomboyish in a way so I wanna see some concept art of her in this to see if i'd prefer it
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>>22631
Could work but it reminds me of her
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>>22633
Agree with this guy that those clothes would look cool on her if they had spikes
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>>22631
Looks more militaristic.
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>>22629
How about making this the pose for her final render?
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>>22641
Fuck yeah

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>>22637
Ame's is more Jirai inspired
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>One of Sena's concept names is an anal probing joke
>Someone suggests Lana (anal backwards) for TORIKO
>fisting bandana
/leek/'s fetish revealed

Your fortune: Better not tell you now
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>>22628
Which loid fits this character archetype?
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>>22631 I love this but
>>22633 yeah I demand spikes
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>>22652
Frimomen
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>>22651
I'm not an ass person
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>>22667
did you have to share a fun fact with the class?
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>>22677
yes
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Now this ass talk has me imagining a leekaloid that sings through their ass like Jim Carey in Ace Ventura.
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>>22680
Call that an ARSLOID
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>>22523
>>22446
>>22435
>>22389

og design suggestion anon here, i really like your colour scheme options! by the moment i really like the beige and blue pants option.
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THE WAY YOU MADE THEM SUFFER, YOUR EXQUISITE WIFE AND MOTHER, FILLS ME WITH THE URGE TO DEFECATE
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Tried recording a few pitches. Starting to oto although chances are I’ll need to re-record some parts due to background noise or what have you.
My plan is to do an 8mora CVVC JP bank and send it to someone else to port to Diffsinger. Frankly I can’t actually sing so I don’t think recording the normal diffsinger way is a great idea
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>>22747
you dont have to be a good singer to record a DS
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>>22747
seconding this >>22751 in fact you don't have to sing at all, meaty-chan's current demo was trained on talking data only
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a0vZFxrc3uo [Embed]

i think that's what paralel training is for (don't quote me on that, i'm still learning) it's not only to increase quality, but also increase range, language capability etc.
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>>22754
>meaty-chan's current demo was trained on talking data only
Huh, you learn something new everyday

I thought DS required singing since its a SVS, but I guess it makes sense considering RVC didnt require them either (that one Spongebob voice that's going around was trained on talking data extracted from episodes).
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>>22747
Excuse my ignorance but what is 8mora
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>>22763
mora means how many syllables are in one sample, for example here's a 5-mora vcv " ka-ka-ki-ka-ku" and a 7 mora would be something like "ka-ka-ki-ka-ku-ka-ke"
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>>22764
This, here's the recording list I used https://utau.felinewasteland.com/jp/cvvc#8
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>>22751
>>22754
That is good to know. I guess maybe the JP UTAU can be a proof of concept/way to get feedback on tone and audio quality, then the stretch goal is to record a DS prioritizing English.
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>>22765
sounds good to me!! good luck with recording and let us know if u need help with anything
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>>22631
Is anyone gonna draw this
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Pitch 1 (lowest)
https://vocaroo.com/1ipOoAuDIJzy [Embed]
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>>22789
Sounds a little like 96Neko
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>>22789
Audio quality is very good btw, assuming you're the anon above
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=J_HLY0Rss-g YouTube
>>22764
Syllable is just closest English equivalent. Mora is different.
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Alright, while the drawfrends are sleeping, can we name her before we end up with another Sena / Shinya situation? This site is a lot bigger than back then so I assume some of the newbies don't know what I'm talking about but basically /leek/ can't Japanese, so the names for Shinya and Sena were among the last things made and delayed the characters' release on TCC.
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>>22822
Also worth mentioning is that TORIKO didn't have this issue because we directly gave up and decided to go with the all caps naming scheme used for synths like ANRI.

I think we should also come up with character descs because that's one of the reasons TORI's been blowing up recently, the whole thing about her being schizo is part of her appeal.
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>>22823
She’s not schizo, she’s right.
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>>22826
In this day and age yeah
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>>22822
How about Kyoko? It apparently means Strong child and it's also the name of a tomboy character you might be familiar with.
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Surname Kenkou (拳交)
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>>22829
As for the last name, I wouldn't know. I'm sure someone can come up with the kanjis and stuff, my Japanese knowledge is pretty limited. Age can be between 17-19, it's usually girls in their late teens who have a tomboyish phase (and I'm sure for some it's not a phase at all but I've personally never met anyone like that in their 20s/30s).
And while we're at it let's make her a tsuntsun.
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>>22830
Kyouko Kenkou? That's a lot of K's
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>>22830
"Exchange of Fists" lol
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We're not doing the fisting shit
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=-jq_OITJNNs YouTube
We should make it so that she canonically trains at the gym and calls herself the boss of it
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>>22835
Holy shit, this. We should make her slightly Gachimuchi themed. Think about it, her bio being a reference to the vid you attached, her pose being the same as Ricardo Milos or perhaps even Aniki's thinking pose.
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>>22836
Anyone remember that 3D video of Rin in a road roller being chased by this guy?
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=mSx49_d4oOg YouTube
It's a classic
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>>22837
>this guy
His name is Billy Herrington a.k.a Aniki...
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>>22835
>>22836
the funny thing is that with her being kinda tomboyish you could pull this off
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also is Ricardo even considered part of the Gachiverse? especially since he became kinda mainstream by the end of the 2010s?
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Kyouko Ani 安威強子
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>>22844
Ani?
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>>22834
Fisting is 300 bucks
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>>22833
I thought Kenkou meant Health
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>>22845
Cheap Power 安威
It would probably be Yasu-i instead of An-i, I am a dekinai
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>>22848
Dekinai dekinai dekinai ko
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>>22847
that's 健康
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>>22842
Technically yes, he's been in Gachi MADs before the late 2010's. And i don't see how him becoming mainstream would affect that.
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What about Kai for her first name? I think it sounds pretty gender neutral and cool.

some kanjis
>魁 Pioneer, leader, or champion.
self-explanatory
>維 means "to bind, rope, thread."
for gachi anons
>海 means "sea, ocean, vast."
she does have shark teeth, but can also mean "where many people or things come together."
>楓 means "maple tree, kaede (the tree)"
she's red lol

I used this website as a reference
https://japanese-names.info/first-name/kai
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>>22860
Yuuki Kai
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>>22844
I read this as Kyoto Ani ;_;
Never forget the fires
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I think any name should be a mix of masculine and feminine at the same time to reflect the voice having some gentle side to it too. I don't think tomboys have to act like insecure macho men.

>>22860
>first name
I tend to go with "given name" and "family name" over "first" and "last" to avoid the confusion of different name order in some countries and cultures.
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Maybe niki (=aniki) for a given name? It might be confused with the producer though
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>>22865
Nikki
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Another pun is Suzi->Suji->Muscle which I only know because of the Maretu song.
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>>22860
Kaai
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>>22877
Kaai and Kai are different names actually see here >>22799

But yes to English speakers they sound basically the same.
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I kinda prefer Kyoko to all these pun names tbh
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does it absolutely have to be japanese
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>>22915
Preferably but i think it would be funny if at some point we make one with the most American sounding name possible
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>>22915
はい
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>>22915
I’ll second this thought since it’s a foreigner-voiced bank anyway. I think the WVF is developed enough now to not always need to adopt JP naming customs for characters. But that is a philosophical thing and probably off topic.
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>>22928
All the other leekas have Japanese names though
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>>22928
It's not necessary, and neither are pun names, but we already have 3 characters with Japanese names (one of which is canonically Japanese and the other is an alien raised in Japan) and it's a character based on a Japanese meme (Gachimuchi to the Japanese is what "Ambatukam" is to the Indonesians).

Though i think it would be interesting if we had a character that's neither Japanese nor American. Maybe Russian, British, etc.
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You know, the original vipperloids were "dubs decide" threads
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>>22932
Yeah but that's impossible to do here, we might be faster than some imageboards but we're still slower than 4chan
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>>22933
I don't think this would even be possible on 4chan itself, /jp/ is much slower today than it was just a few years ago.
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>>22933
It would be good to have some way to decide these things quickly, though. Maybe it should be "fortune decides"
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>>22932
It's juvenile encouraging spamming and not actually fair because internet speed and other factors.

>>22931
Makes little sense unless having an English accent or speaks Russian and at least a mild accent.
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>>22937
would only Godly Luck qualify, or any positive fortune?
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>>22939
I personally don't consider it spammy but those kinds of games can't really be done here because we don't have people posting every second like on 4chan and possibly 2chan
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2/3 pitches oto'd. Unfortunately the higher range isn't as bold as the lower one
https://vocaroo.com/1dRPJRF2xnGp [Embed]
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>>22993
I love kyoko-chan
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>>22798
Thanks, I noticed while otoing that there's maybe some reverb (red) and other background crud (blue) in the recordings, but not sure if it is enough to upset UTAU. Google told me Diffsinger is pickier so I'll try to improve that.
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>>22997
If the vocaroo is what the utau sounds like then it sounds V3 quality. Diffsinger is indeed pickier, maybe try using noise removal software like RX Pro or Audacity if you can't afford it or pirate it.
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>>22998
Yeah, the vocaroos are straycat_rs resampler in UTAU. Don't know how she sounds in other ones, too lazy to boot into windows.
Thank you for the tip I'll use that sort of thing. I suppose that's why someone recommended a second or so of silence before and after the sample for DS.
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>>23001
Are you a linux user by chance
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>>22993
It's perfecto
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>>22993
I actually thought you were a boy until the high notes
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>>22844
Would it not be Ani Kyouko? Last name first in Japanese
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>>23028
Anime Kyouko
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>>23027
Sounds like a girl to me
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>>23027
You might be deaf, anon, get that checked
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>>23004
Yes
>>23027
If it works for the character, it works for the character. I’d like to try and bring out a little more strength in the upper range to match in the future. I don’t think I could voice a character who’s more sweet/cute so I’m glad there’s a niche that fits better.
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how much boobage
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>>23049
Haku levels
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>>23049
Flat as a board
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>>23049
Bigger than the sun
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>>23053
you really are a couple kidders anons
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>>23049
No boobs, just ass
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>>23055
Oh shit nice
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>>23055
I still have mixed feelings about the outfit but this is cool
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>>23055
Love it
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>>23055
Outfit looks too "flower" for my taste but i love her face
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>>22789
it sounds like a very high quality CV released in 2013. love her voice. so she's going to be multipitch?
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its gonna sound great with hifisampler
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>>23055
very nice, but I still feel like "kyoko" doesn't fit her
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>>23073
3 pitches planned (F#3, B3, D#3). Sample with B3 included here >>22993. I think I should double check the prefix map though.
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>>23076
D#4** woops
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>>23075
what about "annie"? annie-ki... aniki... get... it? hahah...
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>>23098
Asa... Ass we can
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>>23099
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>>23099
You won't believe this
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>>23101
i'm gonna throw up
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>>23102
what do you have against asa-chan
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>>23098
Admittedly I had this thought too. Although I’ve liked all the names shared
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>>23098
Annie Key...
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>>23127
Annie Key is very cute... I think we should go with that.
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>>23127
>>23149
Too on the nose
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Out of all the names suggested so far i like Kyouko the most.
Also it might be a good idea to start defining her other traits.
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I get the character is very gachi inspired but we don't have to go with gachi related names. Something simple should work.
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Kyani?
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>>22631
I like the idea of her being boyish but wearing something girly but at the same time i don't really like this outfit for her. Maybe something more simple?.
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>>23159
Seconding
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>>23158
Kyuss
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>>23058
>>23071
i'm happy to wait and see if anybody else can come up with outfit variations they like more
if i designed one myself it'd probably end up fully leaning into the Gachimuchi theming, something like a female wrestler a la Rumble Roses
i also can't promise that i'd be able to finish a render, so if i can't, i'll just post sketch/lineart for someone else to finish
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>>23171
I like this idea
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>>23171
Funny you mention a fighting game like Rumble Roses because I had something like Asuka from Tekken in mind when I heard the concept
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>>23192
+ base if anyone else wants to take a swing.
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>>23193
love the last one, idk about her being red tho
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>>23192
D is sexoooo
Reminds me of Punkish Len
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>>23192
love the first 2
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>>23192
The last one is great
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>>23192
love A and B, D too but can't unsee the punkish len comparison
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>>23192
I like D and B the most
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>>23193
ero...
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>>23192
Gotta go with D because it looks like Punkish and also armpits
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CVVC VB is roughly oto'd and put together.
https://litter.catbox.moe/h1g3agi14h22jpzw.zip
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>>23274
>breath samples
I love you dude
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>>23278
Do the other utau not have them?
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>>23274
kyoko-chan is real...

Your fortune: Very Bad Luck
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>>23279
iirc sena has one and shinya has five
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>>23280
>fortune
…Annie-chan is real??…

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again
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I want to suggest two names I thought would be fitting: Kurogane Ren and Hayakawa Rei
Both are masculine-ish
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>>23292
I still think Kyoko is perfect but I like Ren
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>>23293
Len kagamine
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>>23297
identity theft loid
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>>23319
Adachi Rei
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I don't think it'd kill us if we did a non Japanese name
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>>23323
She looks like a Morgana to me. Maybe we could just stylize her name in all caps like Toriko so something like MORGANA.
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>>23324
Morgana is a good one, writing that one down
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>>23324
I like Morgana but it reminds me of the little cat fucker from Persona
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>>23335
Also all caps name is a good idea too
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+1 for Morgana
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What about Eiki or Eiko
Eiko (鋭子) 鋭 means "sharp, quick, clever."
Eiki (映希) 希 means "hope, rare, few."
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Kira would be funny
>>23335
Same
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yugami nee na
actually, i thought "yugamine" would be funny as a family name, but it turns out i'm about 18 years too late https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E6%AD%AA%E9%9F%B3%E3%82%A8%E3%83%8A
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>>23372
Excellent
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>>23372
Yugamine Ren
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>>23372
Can you try making her clothes white or black? I want to see how that looks on her since the red feels off
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MORGANA's the best so far
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>>23372
kino
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>>23397
You're a genius
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>>23397
Lol
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Since no one can decide on the name wouldn't it be a good idea to start working on her bio before she gets Shinya curse
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>>23423
how about this (someone wanted her to be tsuntsun)
"___ is a rising star in the world of professional wrestling. With 20 consecutive wins, she hasn't lost a single match yet. However, don't be fooled by her confident appearance. She can be very girly and shy at times, and gets easily flustered when she's complimented."
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>>23292
how about Rena, Reika, Kuren
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>>23423
That one tight outfit looks kind of wrestler like. Maybe she could be a pro wrestler.
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Catchphrase "We're all buff men"
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>>23442
Please no
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>>23442
Eh its too on the nose methinks
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made a cover with our gal, ust by キャベ太郎
if someone wants to add gachimuchi screams in there be my guest
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>>23447
Could've done Hito Mania which already has a gachi scream lol
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>>23447
and some other stuff I did
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>>23449
smh fine
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>>23447
Love the mixing and visual
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Consider this
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>>23476
migikata ni murasaki chouchou
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>>23476
Len with a pussy
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>>23476
Agreed, I like the aesthetics but the punkish resemblance is stronger if it’s all black
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>>23476
Honestly i kinda like black better despite it looking more like punkish
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>>23491
I dont see the issue
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>>23476
imo it needs a color accent at least...
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>>23524
Would yellow/orange make it too Kagamine? I guess red is an option too but it just looks out of place.
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>>23525
I don't think red is out of place, her eyes are redish brown after all, but orange or yellow could be cute too.
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>>23527
honestly now that i've seen a full body pic, red is fine
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I think we need to make a proper voicebank release video for her, what song(s) do you think would be good for that?
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>>23558
Hito Mania
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>>23558
spikes, shark teeth, overall gremlin energy - I can't shake off Konton Boogie vibes, you know?
but idk if voice would fit

Your fortune: Average Luck
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>>23563
Could work
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>>23558
I'm thinking a YM song. URUsaaaaaa愛, ネガ, something in that ball park
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>>23563
I could remake the MV
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>>23558
maybe hito mania which has a gachi samp
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Quick plug n plays to see what fits
Konton (Kiryma UST)
https://vocaroo.com/1nzeTX4buUQX [Embed]

Hitomania (suratsol UST)
https://vocaroo.com/17HK27IoaGjT [Embed]

Nega (aitakattaze UST)
https://vocaroo.com/1mlGZ7Lpteyh [Embed]
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>>23439
Forgot to comment but this bio is good
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>>23576
She sounds so good
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>>23576
i like nega best
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I love sharp teeth
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Was playing around and made a very short messy cover of a BDSM song from Final Fantasy, I thought it would suit her
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render is coming along, i got distracted by homodachi life
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>>23781
now make her in the game
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>>23782
don't tempt me
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>>23366
I like Eiki
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>>23620
She sounds so good
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How hard would it be to pull off another Toriko prank? Our side of the fandom is very easy to bait so they'd probably fall for it again
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>>23857
I can't tell you how hard it'd be but I can tell you that it wouldn't be easy
Money was involved in the creation of the original TORIKO, from the commissioned artwork (that's why she looks so good) to the paid domain which no longer works
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>>23486
Neru without a cell phone
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mixed konton boogie
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>>23866
An angel without wings
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>>23898
This should be in the OC thread but nice
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>>23900
omg i messed up the tabs sorry!!
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did Francium
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>>23909
i love her voice
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>>23909
Best sounding leeka hands down
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>>23921
Riko is good too, i can't wait to hear EN
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Not to beat a dead horse with name chat, but maybe Summer or Natsumi would be cute with her warm colors.
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>>23931
Natsumi could also work as a 2ch nod
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yugamine ena is still the best both cuz it's a pun from gachi and because it sounds like kagamine a bit and people keep comparing her to him
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>>23938
Beautiful. I’m very excited
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>>23937
I thought that was claimed already
If not though we should go with that
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=c8Pi0wVaNrQ YouTube
>>23940
it's not even an jinrinki utau, just a remix tagged with that, also it's from 2009 so i don't think they'd mind lol
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>>23941
Ena it is then
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Ena!
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>>23439
>Ena is a rising star in the world of professional wrestling. With 20 consecutive wins, she hasn't lost a single match yet. However, don't be fooled by her confident appearance. She can be very girly and shy at times, and gets easily flustered when she's complimented.
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Now can someone remake the Rhythm Heaven Ringside video with her
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>>23938
I love her so much and the design is so good
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>>23950
But who’s giving the interview?
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>>23952
Dayo...
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made glide with her
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>>23952
Me
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We need Ena Ena ni Shiteageru
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>>23957
Why?
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>>23958
people wanted a prank ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ fake lost media is popular in the western fandom. easier than faking a vocaloid
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>>23957
The Glide cover is begging for a MMDPV with that one motion, but I’m not good enough at 3D to produce a model (yet)
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>>23952
me
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>>23960
You could commission it but idk who even takes MMD commissions in the big '26, especially now that Deviantart is a corpse of a website.
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>>23965
Maybe it could be a VRoid model that's then converted to MMD? Tons of those on Vgen, I think there's also a few creators that can do MMD outright
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>>23972
Could Koikatsu to blender, and modify from there
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>>23965
There are people making them on vgen
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>>23973
This
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Still working on nega
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>>24107
vocals are a bit loud imo but other than that it sounds really good
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I know the UTAU isn't even out yet but is she getting a DS?
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>>24118
The plan is to do a DS English next. I need to improve my recording environment (at least marginally) and put together a recording list before that begins.
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>>24119
the current voicebank is already good quality imo
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>>24120
It is but it's not English
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>>24119
Do you mean like sound absorption to reduce reverb? You can just hang up thick blankets on curtain rods for something quick and see if that helps.
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>>24119
Nice
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>>24118
Speaking of, now that Ena has a name and a portrait, I don't see a reason for her not to be finished. Here's a copy of her bank with those updates (render looks fantastic btw). Let me know if the readme needs any updates. https://files.catbox.moe/22j8wg.zip
>>24127
Yeah, that's the sort of thing I'm looking for. All the guides I've read have pointed out how fussy DS is with reverb/noise, so I'd like to put a little effort in on that end before labeling like 30 minutes of audio.
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>>24133
>Yeah, that's the sort of thing I'm looking for.
In that case another thing is making sure your air conditioner fan is not running. Likewise with any computer fan so you may want to isolate your computer from the microphone if you record that way. Often you cant hear them running but on recordings I noticed you can hear things you normally dont notice.
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>>24133
What if you train a smaller dataset first of 10 minutes just to see if it really affects it that much?
My other suggestion would be to try using era vsts to de-reverb, they're still available on archive
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if image rights are needed for tcc
R-18 Content: Permission Not Required
Commercial Use of Character: ...how likely would this be, even? i'd say permission required, but then there would have to be some way to get in contact with me, i suppose?

>>24133
>(render looks fantastic btw)
thanks, i'm really glad i could finish it, never actually done a proper render before. she's such an awesome voicebank!
>>23949
likes: fried rice
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>>24139
It's a bit complicated. Sena is managed by her own voice provider (same way Canon manages Namine Ritsu). As for Toriko, when she was created, a group called Voxsoft was formed to manage the rights to the character in the same vein as something like Longsleeper. They also now own the rights to Sena's upcoming AI voicebank. Your choices are to 1. manage it yourself if everybody else is okay with that, 2. form a group like voxsoft, 3. contact voxsoft (they already manage two leekas, one more wont hurt them).
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>>24139
>how likely would this be, even?
Depends on the popularity of the character really

Commercial rights refers to songs on streaming services plus merch of the character right?
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>>24137
This. Audacity has built in noise removal btw.
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>>24141
Commercial use of voicebank should cover streaming, and use of character should cover merch. Stuff like monetized youtube videos are a little more ambiguous, personally I have no problem with it.
My feelings are
>R-18 Content: Hell Yeah
>Commercial Use of Voicebank: Hell Yeah
>Commercial Use of Character: Something like - Small scale (<$10k) Permitted; Large Scale (>$10k) Permission Required; Reuse of Original Render Not Permitted, but would defer to essbee
>Modifications to Voicebank: Hell Yeah
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>>24146
sounds good to me
in that case you can reach me at name field @protonmail.com
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>>24142
Audacity's noise removal plugin kinda sucks. I suggest pirating RX Pro.
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>>23949
Age should be unknown but "old enough to drink"
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>>24172
alcoholic hag like meiko
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>>24172
>>24139
> likes: fried rice
Seconding both of these
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is the fried rice thing a reference?
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>>24206
gachi soramimi
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Does Van-sama still stream on Twitch? Is there any chance we could get him to eventually acknowledge Ena?.
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>>24252
he does
maybe if someone donated during stream or sent it in his dicksword server, or maybe draw them together and send it to him
>If you want to send me your artworks (I will display them on stream) or some stuff, here is my mailing address
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Fried rice is boring. How about frying rice grain by grain so each is perfect?
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>>24258
Hmm. Kinda lacks Van references though. Wouldn't hurt to steal a catchphrase of his for Ena or something.
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>>24140
voxsoft please
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>>24275
Her quote could be "Oh yeah? I'll kick your ass!" from that one vid with Mark Wolfe
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULksBoH1c9w YouTube
Obligatory
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>>24472
Boy next door
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does anybody know where i can get ena's most recent voicebank?
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>>24477
It’s here >>24133
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Is anyone doing a video?
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>>24494
someone said they'll do a demo but idk if that implies a video
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>>24497
or did you mean a cover vid like those of sena and toriko
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>>24494
>>23568 implied they'd do one for konton boogie but not sure if they've started it
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>>16041
Can you bless the singing thread while you're at it
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>>23938 re-up to fix some transparency bits that were bugging me + slightly bigger res
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>>24139
dislikes: butt stuff (?
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>>24709
She'd charge $300
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>>24718
Fisting is $300
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>>24724
You are the same to mention fisting before, aren't you?
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>>24729
It's a gachi quote
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=5rhIbyOWPu8 YouTube
>>24729
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Have the name and bio been defined yet
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>>24996
Just the name
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>>24996
Yes, name is YUGAMINE ENA in the voicebank (guessing kanji is too much trouble) and the bio text is >>23949. Maybe some opportunity for more liked/disliked/etc items.
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>>25002
Would be fun if her likes subtly showed off her more feminine side in contrast to her design, like 'Likes using face masks' or 'Likes ice cream sundaes' or something
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=BqZ5gEktHAk YouTube
>>25002
Someone already mentioned it but that's the same name Billyloid has
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>>25010
Likes lifting, suplexes, fluffy kittens lol
>>25025
Yeah, I guess it isn’t completely agreed whether that’s a problem or not in this context.
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>>25025
name is funny for these reasons >>23937 but i feel like it's kind of NG due to it being a well established tag, which is why i mentioned it originally as being too late
my thoughts are
>change エナ from katakana to some form of kanji reading instead
>drop kanji and have her name in english if it's in all-caps then it kinda clashes with the joel g series of the same time, also biting off TORIKO's gimmick
>keep 歪音 and give her a different given name
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>>25027
she could be just "ENA" as a nod if everyone else agrees
someone in leeka thread also said it's funny how we now have sena and ena lol
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>>25029
+1 for Kanji
I kinda don't want a name in all caps for the reasons you mentioned and the fact that people might think she's related to TORIKO
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>>25027
Dislikes: Wet floors
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>>25037
then here's a few ideas, also from a dekinai

>絵名 - 絵 (picture, drawing) + 名 (name, title) (example: Shinonome Ena)

>恵奈 - 恵 (wisdom) + 奈 (example: Matsumoto Ena; from research this is a common rendering of the name)
>愛夏 - 愛 (love, affection) + 夏 (summer) (jisho says this can also be read as a bunch of names other than ena as well, but someone suggested summer as a name and might be cute/feminine?)
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>>25112
I found a baby name site that lists common kanji for names. Has given names and family names.

They split Ena into two pages since it is a more gender neutral name
https://japanese-names.info/first-name/ena
https://japanese-names.info/first-name/ena-2/
Could consider to get the summer part into the family name instead of the given name by the way.
https://japanese-names.info/last-names/search-result/featurel-season_meaning-summer/
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additionally it could just be in hiragana like how sena is せな
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What if we come up with a nickname like wrestlers sometimes have, as the official voicebank name? Then "Ena" can be her "actual" name in the character info.
Some characters in "Rumble Roses" have a wrestling nickname like Candy Cane, Mistress, Noble Rose etc., I think it's gonna stand out more than just a regular Japanese name.
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>>25402
Could be, but it'd still be nice to have a name.
As for her persona name, it could be something masculine, maybe something with King in it
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>>25402
I like this idea
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>>25404
King from Tekken came to mind when you said that
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Crimson King, lol.
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>>25412
21st ♂ century ♂ schizoid ♂ man
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>>25412
Or I guess King Scarlet sounds better for the same joke.
>>25413
♂ ♂ ♂ ♂
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>>25402
in real life they also like to slap a noun in front of a name, so something like Dynamite Ena or Boss Ena can work too
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>>25434
i like king scarlet
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https://vocaroo.com/1iTpcySUxWyX [Embed]
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>>25943
sounds amazing
we really should name her something already
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This, finish her for once so she can be on TCC
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Is the name all that’s left or is there other info needed?
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>>25959
Terms, likes and dislikes are defined. Name and everything else is missing.
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What about using "Darashine Ena" instead?
https://gachimuchipantswrestling.miraheze.org/wiki/You_are_slacking_off
The age can be 19 maybe
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>>25961
fitting considering we are also slacking off
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I like the idea of a catchy ring name with >>25961 as the real name. Also liked this suggestion for age >>24172
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>>25961
>>25965
This. Also wasn't her age 17?.
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>>25971
17-19 was a suggestion
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King Ena?
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>>25990
King Scarlet sounded better tbh
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Could also be Prince Scarlet. I’ve got girls being princes on the mind from Revolutionary Girl Utena.
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summarized current suggestions

Name: King Scarlet
Real name: Darashine Ena (だらし音エナ) this was also used on nico but far less than yugamine and last used in 2013, so should be fair play
Render: >>24513
Bio:
>Known as "King Scarlet" in the ring, Ena is a rising star in the world of professional wrestling. With 20 consecutive wins, she hasn't lost a single match yet. However, don't be fooled by her confident appearance. She can be very girly and shy at times, and gets easily flustered when she's complimented.

Age: Old enough to drink
Gender: Female
Character item: N/A or Fried rice
Likes: Lifting, suplexes, fluffy kittens, facial masks
Dislikes: Wet floors, butt stuff
Permissions: >>24146

>>25965
voicebank name should probably include both, like "King Scarlet (だらし音エナ)"
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>>26042 (Me)
by the way i fucking love all of the covers so far
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>>26042
"Old enough to drink" should remain the final age, its funny
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Could always make her a raging alcoholic yk
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>>26042
King Scarlet doesn't roll of the tongue really well imo
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Pound Cake

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again
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This is unrelated to Ena but I was thinking we could make a spooky themed utauloid every October for halloween
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>>26132
I think that's too much because we already have 2 supernatural leekas
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>>26144
who else aside from shinya
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>>26146
Sena is an alien, they're Halloween -y
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>>26146
alien
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>>26148
watashi alien
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If this thread hits bump limit before we name her, should we move to leekas thread?
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>>26151
It won't but yeah
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>>26147
Sena could totally shapeshift into a ghoul, werewolf, etc. for Halloween
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VP-san, are you gonna record for diffsinger?
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Unrelated but i think the diffsinger should have a different design like sena and toriko (whose utau design hasnt been finished yet)
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>>26209
That’s the plan. The DS will be English only for now. I picked out about 30 songs to strip down and sing, focusing on rock-ish genres. Right now I’m converting them to midi, adjusting tempo/key, etc. and hopefully planning improvements to recording quality. I think the project will take a while
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>>25961
Would her name just be spelled だらしねぇな without Kanji?
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>>26216
do u need any help?
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>>26218
Not at this time, appreciate it. I might reach out when it’s time to label (although the songs I’m recording are a bit embarrassing lol)
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>>26215
one of the previous concept oufits like toriko? or creating a new outfit (assuming this is what vox are doing for sena)?
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also i assumed TCC delay was due to waiting for a video release >>23558
if delay is coming from the ring name i think a "fortune decides" like >>26117 would be very funny
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>>26231
I'd rather people picked it normally tbh, I'd hate if it landed on some crass joke and people ended up avoiding using her because of that. VP out a lot of effort into this voicebank, I'd hate for it to go to waste. It's the first multipitch leeka iirc.
People wanted to make a joke utau, maybe we can do that and then everything could be decided by fortune lol.
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>>26231
I mean her name isn't even defined yet
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>>26232
understandable, didn't consider the downsides
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>>26217
Probably the preference would be to spell the given name in katakana like だらしねエナ. From a cursory kanji search I think it will be tough to find kanji that fit.
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>>26265
I think it looks a little weird. Never seen a Japanese name spelled like that. But it can work.
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I was going to suggest something but then found out someone designed Darashine Ena years ago lmao
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>>26284
Eh?
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>>26284
1 video from 2008 and it's just a drawing, she doesn't even have a voice
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5641023 [Embed]
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>>26291
Blocked in my country.
But either way I support this anon's idea of keeping the name.
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>>26291
There were a bunch of anons on nicopedia designing her, then 5 videos by that one guy, I think. It's pretty obscure, just thought it was funny
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bump
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>>25413
>>25434
>>25412
Can someone explain the joke
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>>27463
I don't think there's a joke there. Someone suggested her fighter name start with "King" and King Crimson is a 60's prog band.
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Will we actually finish her before the thread hits bump limit?
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>>27509
Let’s see

Your fortune: Bad Luck
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/leek/ can barely come up with one name for one character, let alone two names for one
just pick one good one
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Ok to bounce off >>25481 suggestion, maybe Prince Ena for the voicebank name, then "Yugami (歪み) Ena" for the actual name? If we drop "ne" from it, it sounds inspired enough, but not an exact copy
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>>26042
Name should be Crimson King. Sounds cooler and is also a reference to King Crimson.
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>>27542
I think Darashine is fine
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She's finished check TCC
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Leek finally figured out a name after 3 months
Maybe next time we'll get it in 2
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>>27650
/leek/ can't japanese

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