Low pitch Kafu

Used to prefer low-pitch Rin, but can't imagine her as anything other than high-pitched Miku now since the only new neru exposure I got for years was OwataP.

I think low pitched Rin suits her more than high pitched Miku considering she's grumpy and a bit of a hothead

I'm a low Rin truther
<neru captcha

>>14132
Has the low pitch Kafu been used for anything other than those Mesmerizer videos?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wore85_ytPg

KITTOOOOOO
NINKIMOOONOOOOO

>>14145
No

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EAAMmR74W9Y

Consider the following:
Low pitched Miku and Rin XSY

>>14161
I hear more Rin than Miku here

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Neru spotted in Brazil

>>14165
i need context, wtf is going on here

>>14167
Neru being chased by an angry vendor in Brazil after stealing leeks

>>14167
it's a joke taken from another video where a guy in a bike follows someone on the street yelling "it was you! come here!" and the person started running for their life thinking the guy on the bike was from a cartel

>>14165
What is Neru doing in Brazil

>>14161
this is the most neru sounding voice i've heard for neru. wish this person had their settings listed.

>>14165
If they just casually have nerus walking around like this im going to brazil

>>14165
First you get her out of the screen
Then we talk

Low pitched Rin even though I've only heard the Miku one in OwataP's songs

>>14165
Well, did she do it?

>>14549
Yeah, Neru is wanted in all of Brazil for her crimes

Low pitched Rin. I know that Gocha Gocha Urusee and more recently Zako use High pitched Miku but Neru is the grumpy type, I can't imagine her with a high voice.

>>14161
This one seems like a perfect balance

>>14165
This is like seeing bigfoot footage

High pitched miku

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low pitched rin desu

>>15097
Good image

Funny how everyone here seems to prefer Rin but the most used voice is actually Miku

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Fish

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GxwW8V3kjP8

I hope you've all seen this one. It's one of my favorite songs in recent years.

>>15369
This sounds a lot like OwataP's old stuff. I like it.

I love Nell

>>15369
This was definitely made by an Umamusume fan

Always wondered why Neru was high pitch Miku instead of low pitch like Haku

Low pitch Rin fits her design but i guess high pitch Miku is the one people are most familiar with due to all the songs

I have been wondering a while now what Neru would sound like if it was a midpoint of both like how Rei's voicebank was made.

>>17493
Like this? >>14161

>>17494
I am not sure since it sounds like some kind of mixing technique.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ASThIU-VtnA

Given that I dislike Mesmerizer, I'm surprised that if this version came on, I wouldn't turn it off. Maybe it doesn't count as vocal-synth, but cellphone beeps as Neru's "voice" always felt right to me. I wonder if the beeps could be integrated in a way that she could sing while still sounding like a phone, perhaps by recording a voice coming out of a phone speaker while mixing in some dial tones.

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I can't unsee it now

>>17497
I had always wished that she got a voice of her own. She could have been the first Adachi Rei but with dial tones. Perhaps being a pitchloid makes more sense to keep the connection with Miku clearer though. Smith Hioka-san if you ever see this please respond if you had considered this before.

>>17597
Not him, but i think the reason there's no Neru voicebank is because you already have multiple options: there's high pitched Miku, low pitched Rin, fanmade voicebanks like NEO, etc

>>17597
We don't need an official voicebank

neru daki when

>>17648
You can ask the man himself next sunday

>>17597
This might not be the answer you were hoping for, but until very recently, I felt that I didn't have the authority to decide anything regarding Akita Neru's voice.

To begin with, even though her outfit is based on Hatsune Miku, I didn't intend to create a "Vocaloid" (vocal synth) character at the time. I considered her to be more of a "gijinka" (personification) character.

Later, when people started using pitch manipulation to give her a voice, I decided it was best to leave that to the creators' imagination, so I avoided commenting on it myself.
Above all, as the person who drew her, I honestly didn't have a concrete image of what her voice should sound like.
So, for me, whether it was a "pitchloid" voice or the dial tones heard in "Triple Baka," I saw them both as valid ways to express Neru. I didn't see one as superior to the other.

I am, of course, conscious of her connection to Miku, but I never felt her voice had to be based on Miku's. This is because Akita Neru is treated strictly as a visual work (in legal terms, an "artistic work").

Sorry for the long reply, but to answer your question about whether I had considered a mechanical voice concept: the answer is that I never actually had a plan to make her into a singing software in the first place.

Hioka are you constantly checking /leek/? You always show up within minutes of being mentioned

>>17672
That might be a bit of an exaggeration.
I sometimes reply when I happen to notice, but I’m sure I miss things as well.

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NEO is the closest thing we'll probably get to a Neru voicebank. It's not official, but as far as I know it seems to have Hioka's blessing.

I think this voice fits her.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ep-RwfAIta0 [Embed]

>>17698
Isn't this an RVC of Flower and Rin?

>>17701
1.0 was, but they got a real voice provider for 2.0

>>17698
A DiffSinger is being made for the NEO voicebank btw

>>17671
Very interesting, thank you.

>>14148
VY1 being used as Neru's voice?
That's a new one

>>17816
rin is right

>>17636
If someone made a voicebank it wouldnt stop anyone from still doing things as always so the variety will always be there. I could see Neru winding up with many competing voicebanks and pitchings used.

I could see Neru working as an UTAU

>>17838
Neo exists

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https://x.com/KousakuP/status/2022542681260376069 [Embed]

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Reminder that the second Q&A is this Sunday.

>>18113
It's actually on Saturday outside the EU and Asia

>>17816
I associate her most with low pitched Rin

>>18113
Posting Neru ass... while her father is lurking... how dare you?

>>18113
one day left

Tonight is the night

>>18556
hype

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Nell

>>21604
Neru's nerus

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again

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Did any of you get the new plushie?
The pic isn't mine btw, I took it from Twindrill's account

Can't believe there's still people out there who want an official Neru voicebank

>>14220
all of the vocaloids are real and they live in third world countries kinda like how in the 5th transformers movies all the remaining autobots are in Cuba

>>24443
Haku is indonesian

does hioka still lurk

>>25245
He still posts occasionally

>>17671
Are you proud of how far your creation has come? From a 2ch inside joke to a character that's recognized worldwide by Vocaloid fans and was even featured in the official console games.

>>25697
Of course, I’m proud of her.

At the same time, I try to be careful not to let that go to my head, or to think of it as something I accomplished on my own.

The fact that so many people have come to know her is thanks to CFM, who agreed to such a generous arrangement, the creators who continue to make fan works, and the many Neru fans who have supported her.

As for me, I think I was simply blessed with a level of good fortune far beyond what I deserve.

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It took a while for it to grow on me but I'm beginning to really like NEO

>>25707
>As for me, I think I was simply blessed with a level of good fortune far beyond what I deserve.
I love this guy

>>25709
The fishnets make NEO's design very Ero. It makes me want to lick her.

>>25720
what are you a cat?

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NEO DiffSinger Silhouette Reveal. Seems like Kuro is moving from the chibi art style of NEO 2.0.

https://x.com/KuroTrash_Art/status/2055050694722290118 [Embed]

Show the video in this Twitter/X post

>>25887
Nice

I'm not a huge fan of NEO tbh. The voice sounds good, but it doesn't feel like Neru to me...

>>25902
Neru doesn't have a canon voice so her voice is whatever you want it to be. Some like NEO's voice, others don't. Personally, I'm a low pitch Rin guy but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.

>>25902
She sounds very latina but i don't have a problem with it

>>25909
her voice provider is mexican i'm pretty sure

>>25906
This is why I thought it would be amusing to find a way to blend all the voicebanks associated most with Neru to make a sort of generic Neru that most agree sounds like Neru. If that makes sense.

>>25914
The original NEO 1.0 voicebank was a mix of Rin and Flower that was generated with RVC AI. But now that makes me wonder what that would sound like if you did it with literally every Vocaloid ever release.

>>25915
Awful probably

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>>25887
Oh ok she's hot

>>25910
But Neru we all know Neru is Brazilian: >>14165

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>>21633
So, do you prefer your Neru big or small?

>>25921
She was just visiting the country dw

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>>25922
Doesn't matter to me, a Neru is a Neru.

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>>25922
Smol Neru so she contrasts with Haku

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>>25922
Both is good

>>25922
Small because we already got Haku

>>25919
Looking like Cyber Diva

Your fortune: Very Bad Luck

>>25933
Does that apply to both at same time?

>>25919
Cyber Neru?
Akita Diva?

Was it ever revealed what DEN2 means? I know its been asked in Hioka's Q&A's here but he was hesitant to answer. Is it some sort of 2channel inside joke?.

>>25919
Reminds me of Panty from PSG

>>26831
Dentsu

>>26831
Unconfirmed but rumored to be Dentsu Company like that other anon said

>>24443
Does that mean I can casually find Flower walking around Thailand or something

>>26857
Flower would live in Chile methinks

>>26863
Why Chile specifically

>>26865
there's a lot of women with that kind of short colored hair there compared to other latin american countries i've visited

>>24443
So IA lives in Argentina actually? Would explain why she'd pick Argentina for a random concert.

Kaito is a proud Filipino

>>26869
So if i go to chile i can get a cute punk tomboy wife? fuck it im moving there

>>26878
Ehh, not exactly

>>26878
Lol no

>>26876
She's pale and depressed so probably Uruguay

>>26884
IA isn't depressed she just doesn't express much emotion

I'm curious if there have been any attempts at creating a definitive Neru voicebank before NEO.

>>27593
Not that i'm aware of. Hioka has said this many times, but Neru was never meant to have a voice in the first place, she was intended as a gijinka/personification of the Miku censorship drama from back in the day. So he's never given her a "canon voice".

I'd say NEO is the first attempt at giving her an actual voice but even with Smith Hioka's approval it's still a non canon voice and fanmade on top of that.

>>25919
ok yeah i can se why people say she looks like cyber diva

>>26831
Dentsu, supposedly

>>25922
Big

I like that Hioka has the ability to show up when you least expect him.

>>29522
apparently Neru was created when he was 22 years old, which would make him 40 now since its been 18 years since 2007.

>>29523
Ojisan...

>>29523
>its been 18 years since 2007.
Nah it is still 2007. You're dreaming.

>>29719
I wish I was mate

>>29593
That’s right!🧔‍♂️
Even if I had been 17 back then, the same age as Neru, I would be 35 now. So either way, I’d still end up being an Ojisan...🥲

And if I had been a teenager when I drew Neru, I’m sure I would have managed to ruin all kinds of things
Looking back on those days, I can say that with confidence 😭

I was still immature at 22, but I had at least gained some sense of judgment.
There were also negotiations that were only possible because I was already an adult.
So in the end, I guess it all worked out.

>>29749
I guess it doesn't hurt to ask but, do you know anything about Starry Party?

>>29750
Just like everyone else, I only found out when it was announced!

>>29750
Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't Crypton and GoodSmile be able to put Neru in it without asking Hioka directly?
Because if so, it makes sense that he doesn't know much about it, it was kind of a surprise announcement.

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>>29749
Time is cruel. I think I was 17 myself when I discovered Neru. Now I'm 31.

>>29749
ur our favorite ojisan

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>>29756
I was either 8 or 9. I'm in my early 20's now. Time does really fly.

>>29757
This

>>29749
I know you don't post here too often but when you do it's always something insightful and its been nice learning about Neru and early Vocaloid community from someone so important on the Japanese side of it.

>>29756
>>29762
Happens to the best of us

>>29754
As far as I could tell from the information available, I did not find anything about Neru appearing in Starry Party.
At most, I only saw some speculation that derivative characters might appear.

Regarding the use of Neru in commercial projects, there is an agreement that approval from both CFM and myself is required.

So unfortunately, in practice, it is not really possible for there to be a “surprise” situation where I only find out at the same time as the public announcement.

>>29756
You don’t need to be afraid of getting older.
The more you broaden your horizons, the richer life becomes.

At least for me, both the things I expected and the things I never saw coming keep stimulating my intellectual curiosity,
so I’m really enjoying life!

>>29757
Thanks

>>29765
Thank you, truly.
But be careful.

It might just be some old guy who usually gets ignored by everyone, saying things that only sound meaningful on the internet👴💻

>>29848
Hey, 40 is not old

>>29845
Yeah, earlier in the thread people were speculating about potential DLC characters with Neru being one of them due to her inclusion in the Diva series (and Gumi because she's in Mirai)
I'm guessing that if Neru were to be in the game you wouldn't know until she was announced then? Interesting how that works

>>29756
31 is still pretty young either way. Don't call yourself old till your hair is white.

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>>29860
>31 is still pretty young either way. Don't call yourself old till your hair is white.

>>29854
If Neru were to appear in a game, I would know about it long before the official announcement.
Naturally, that is because for such a project to move forward officially, both CFM and I would need to agree to grant the license.

So for several months, or even more than a year, I would have to shut the curtains in my room, live in fear that someone might be listening in, suffer from nightmares every night, and spend my days in lonely silence...

Well, that part is a joke, but I would absolutely never leak anything to the outside.

If I truly had no idea that Neru was going to appear until it was announced to the public, that would be a “surprise” for me in a rather bad sense.
Basically, I do not reject offers that have cleared CFM’s standards, but even so, we would still need to confirm and discuss it as a procedural issue.

That said, even if something like that were to happen, I do not think it would turn into a public accusation or dispute. And very fortunately, no such trouble has ever happened so far.

>>29873
30's are just 20's but with extra steps

>>29881
nerubros :(

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Reminder that Mike Shinoda owns a Neru fig

>>30061
and Sakine, and Len, and a couple others

>>30061
I hope Hioka has seen this lol

>>30063
He has

>>30064
Great

Now i wonder if there's any Vocaloid producers or artists in their 50's

>>30116
I think the guy who made Holy Star is around that old now

>>30123
Just looked him up and it seems like he's retired now

>>30124
Yeah, unfortunately. He's the only relatively popular guy I can think of. There's also a club called オサーン卍ボカロ連合 for producers over 50

>>30131
Imagine if your dad was a VocaP

>>30223
One day it's gonna happen to me, but i don't know if I'll still be a VocaP by the time i have kids

>>30116
As far as I know, one of the oldest Vocaloid producers was Masa-P. He was born in 1933—93 years ago.

To put 1933 into perspective, Adolf Hitler’s cabinet was formed in Germany at the end of January, Franklin D. Roosevelt was inaugurated as the 32nd president of the United States, and the original King Kong was released that same year.

He uploaded his first song, “Hana wa Kazarenai,” to Nico Nico Douga in 2012, when he was 79 years old.

He was a professional composer who had been active since the 1960s under the name Masao Saiki. His song “Nagasaki wa Kyō mo Ame Datta,” released in 1969, remains extremely well known among generations who remember that era.

You can listen to the song here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EKQfa2MpvOc [Embed]

Sadly, he passed away in 2022, but the wonderful Vocaloid songs he left behind can still be heard today. You can listen to several of them in this YouTube playlist:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1i8lAEXNQDJ1Bmd8SRAaHBQDge2ETQwI

I recommend listening through all of them, but my personal favorites are “Yofuke no Lullaby,” “Kanashimi no Córdoba,” “Hana no Nai Heya,” and “Koi wa 1970.”

>>30279
I knew that Vocaloid was popular with the newer generations but I never expected it to resonate with any generation before the Millennials.

Maybe perception is different in Japan but over here it's one of those things that adults (over the age of 40, usually) struggle comprehending or they completely dismiss it as "fake music".

>>30279
I was aware of him (unfortunately discovered him through the "deceased" page on VocaDB, as morbid as that may sound) but i wasn't aware that he was in his 80's when he passed.

>>30279
Interesting. Thank you for the recommendation Hioka-san, I'll listen to it.

>>30279
Listening to these is making me start to realize just how few Vocaloid originals I've heard in this kind of genre outside of covers. It's cool hearing something that sounds so authentically 'oldschool' while featuring Miku.

>>30279
This is really good. RIP.

>>30355
There's a lot of unique sounding Vocaloid stuff that never seems to leave the depths of NicoNico or even YouTube. I wish there was a proper way to discover small producers aside from VocaDB and events like Vocacolle/Vocagathering.

>>30360
We have threads for that but they've been kinda inactive as of late

I'm thinking Hioka should be teaching Vocaloid History classes at 39chan School

>>30433
History classes with Hioka sensei

>>30279
Something about Hioka casually mentioning Franklin D. Roosevelt, Hitler and King Kong in the same sentence is funny to me

>>30433
That's one class Project Sekai fans are never passing

When are we getting that official Neru bodypillow

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Nendoroid have a Neru/Haku announcement for July 23. It's likely new figs but I'm hoping its related to Starry Party.

https://x.com/nendorofacemake/status/2079506763695677924 [Embed]

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>>31108
never ever

>>31155
I want to believe

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>>31155
https://www.goodsmileus.com/products/nendoroid-akita-neru-64863

>>31466
Here is Haku
https://www.goodsmileus.com/products/nendoroid-yowane-haku-x-face-maker-collaboration-face-plate-set-70012

>>31466
Why is Haku more expensive

>>31468
That Haku has optional bonus faceplates. They both have 2 listings, with and without the bonus.

>>31488
Those more expensive listings come with all the faces, but you can also just buy them directly, two at a time if you don't want them all here
https://nendoroidfacemaker.com/

Where can i find Hioka's old oekaki art?

>>31786
Some of it is on Deviantart
https://www.deviantart.com/smith-hioka
And the others have been reuploaded to Gelbooru
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=smith_hioka

https://youtube.com/watch?v=225cknS_FXA

>>30223
There is a song about this

>>31831
>puchi miku
I haven't seen her in so long

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>>31787
I never knew there was official art outside of his DeviantArt. It's unbelievably cool, he has a really unique style. I'll go ahead and believe that Neru really does own a pug now.

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>>31847
Well Gelbooru just collects art people found on other sites so it makes sense for it to have much of his older work. Personally i'm pleased with how much Nero art there is.

>>31787
I wonder if his 2channel artwork was ever archived. 4chan has its own archive sites run by users but Japan has different views regarding media preservation so i wonder if anything like that even exists.

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>>31787
This specific artwork made me think of Adam Sandler for some reason

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New Neru and Haku plushies by KAYOZIA supervised by Hioka. There's no pics of the Neru yet.

https://x.com/KAYOZIA/status/2085107629714747788 [Embed]

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>>32406
Why have these been so many ungodly cute officially licensed Neru plushies lately? My bank account can't take it.

Your fortune: Bad Luck

>>32427
To drain your bank account in particular

>>32406
Great time to be a Neru fan, shes so cute!

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I wonder what happened to this

>>32406
Kinda looks like a more detailed version of the official one

>>33316
>This kills the Reddit mod

>>33357
what

>>33359
There's a video about it. For whatever reason you are not allowed to discuss this or any variant of this voicebank on Reddit, even after the original RVC one got replaced with an actual voice actress.

>>33360
meh i don't use that site anyway

>>33316
I'm excited for the design reveal personally. It looks like they're going for a gyaru kind of thing and oddly enough I feel like its a fashion style that would fit Neru.

>>32427
If i had to guess the Triple Baka resurgence introduced new fans to her so now there's demand for more Neru content including merch. Unfortunately, us Sakine Meiko fans will have to starve for a couple more years.

>>33367
Sakine was always unpopular unfortunately

happy birthday to hioka, if he's still around

Low pitched Rin. Miku is already very high pitched.

>>34788
Hey, thanks. I’m back from the dead.

>>34818
welcome back hioka

>>34818
Happy birthday man
Didn't expect you to show up here

>>34818
Happy birthday!!!!!!

>>34788
>>34838
>>34849
I've been in this fandom for a long time and yet this is the first time I heard Hioka shares the same birthday as Miku. I need to do better.

>>34818
Happy late birthday Hioka ojisan... I hope I'll make it to 41 too. Life's been rough.

>>34820
>>34838
>>34849
>>34857
Thank you so much!

>>34850
I don’t really talk about it that much, so it’s totally understandable that you didn’t know.

Part of me wonders where some Vocaloids would live if they had an established canon location. The Tohoku family is... well... obviously from the Tohoku region. And even if never officially specified you can at least assume that the Crypton six are from Japan, though the specific region is never explicitly mentioned either.
Some of Hioka's old fanart has got me wondering if Neru would live in the Tohoku region too.

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>>35855
Tone Rion might be from Akiba

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>>35865
i looked it up on google maps and wow its still there

>>35871
Is there any context to Rion being there at a random bar in Akihabara?

>>35871
that's dearstage, a live house. dempagumi.inc, the idol group where rion and nemu's voice provider used to be, originated from there

>>35871
I hope they never take her down

>>35871
Funny how they use the old artwork

>>35896
It's Akio Watanabe. It fits right in Akihabara. The new artwork doesn't have the same level of moe as his illustrations.

>>35855
I believe the Crypton 6 are supposed to be from Sapporo, Hokkaido, as that's where CFM is based.

For Engloids: SONiKA is supposed to be from around Liverpool, England, according to an old interview or something. (I found this on her Japanese Wikipedia article which linked to a defunct website.) I believe Ruby is also canonically a New Yorker. Other than that I think it's mostly countries of origin (e.g. Oliver being from England and Avanna being from Ireland).

>>35907
Ruby is from NYC?

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>>35907
I knew about Sonika being a brit

>>35907
Tonio and Prima are Italian if I'm not mistaken. And all the Voctros are from Spain.

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>>35855
My wife is not from Earth

>>35961
She's an alien and sings in fluent Japanese. I'm a human and I can barely read Katakana.

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>>35966

>>35966
Don't worry we can't Japanese either

>>35972
ごらんの有様だよな

>>35988
gomen...

>>35966
And English. If you count her VoiSona.

what happened to that one neru diffsinger that was being made?

>>36398
See >>34954

>>35855
In the early days, I did say that Neru was from the Tohoku region.

Part of the reason was simply that I lived in Tohoku myself and was familiar with the area. But more importantly, I was concerned that the name “Akita” might make people associate her too strongly with Akita Prefecture (Akita-ken), and that tying her to one specific prefecture could limit the possibilities for creative works.

That’s also why I avoided using the kanji for “Akita” (秋田) when I chose the characters for her name.

So these days, I think it’s perfectly fine to portray her as being from the Tohoku region, or from somewhere else entirely.

It really depends on what kind of work you want to create.

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>>36449
Never thought about this. Now I want to see more Neru and Kiritan

I thought Neru was from Brazil
>>14165

Update to Neru ToS.

https://x.com/hioka/status/2106702947434545505 [Embed]

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>Explicitly defining the handling of official logos
>Adding a new section on fan-made voice banks
>Adding notations and README guidance to avoid misrecognition as "official/authorized"
>Explicitly stating the policy of not fixing Akita Neru's voice to specific sound sources
>Other minor reorganizations of wording and guidance
>The section on fan-made voice banks (Article 8) will have a publicity and transition period until March 31, 2027, with enforcement starting April 1, 2027.