For a second i thought you made this post twice

I like that there is an official Ruby voicebank for it but it kinda sucks that it's private.

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That dude who made Neru and Iku's new voicebanks is now doing DiffSinger for them (and a couple other 'loids). Part of me hopes they use actual voice providers and not some frankenstein of voice clips from the VP, RVC and his friend's voices again.

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>>13309
>Acme Iku AI
Ok you have my interest now

>>13309
If the Iku and Ryona voicebanks are voiced by different people I'll be upset

In the small chance there's someone in here who has made a diffsinger can you send over the labeled audios so I can use them as a reference? I'm willing to learn how 2 diff

DiffSinger is magical

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>>13422
why does saxloid sound kinda good

>>13423
He's got a beautiful voice and perfect Japanese skills

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Found this Defoko AI port for DiffSinger. Sadly not available for download but it sounds neat.
Sauce:

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>>13447
Just sounds like a smoother version of the Defoko we all know and love. Which is not a bad thing.

Thoughts on Tori ds?

>>13713
love her and i'm excited for the EN release

Do producers use DiffSinger at all or is it somehow more niche than UTAU? I have not heard a single original song created with DiffSinger

>>13717
Diffsinger is a lot more niche then utau, helps that utau has been around for so long but it seems that if producers want a more realistic style they just use synthv instead. I also don't know of any original songs that use diffsinger which is a shame because some of the vbs that are out there sound pretty good in my personal opinion.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vjp_4mSu-fM [Embed]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TRlF-XtTY1o [Embed]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4qSELsAUUXo

>>13772
>>13717
Nobody has a song using his own diffsinger

>>13773
the way this post is worded lmao

>>13447
Now combine this with the "clean defoko" voicebank

have people ported any other voicebanks to DS aside from rei and defoko?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iPw47cXOhlY

>>14278
Ruby. Though it was made by her actual voice provider and never released.

>>14280
Wish it had because we're never getting Maghni atp

>>14285
I think we will get an update this year

>>14285
like that anon said we'll probably get something this year. maybe not the full synth but at least an update. i'm personally more excited for SYNTHU lol.

>>13713
I might be biased because this site is home to me but it makes me happy to see something like Toriko AI come out of here. Diffsinger is easy to use so I'd imagine that Tori will finally start having original songs once the new version releases.

>>14295
>i'm personally more excited for SYNTHU lol

Anon... I...

>>15123
Hope always wins

>>15119
I don't think she's gonna have any original songs until the English one releases because no one here knows Japanese despite listening to Japanese music

>>15137
I'll try once EN comes out

Anybody knows if any other big UTAUs have been ported over to Diff Singer aside from Rei, Ruko and Ritsu?

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>>15160
ALYS has a DS port
https://vocadb.net/Ar/135064

>>15321
Somehow i had completely forgotten about ALYS lol

>>15119
It's definitely nice to see the English community make something this big. I'm surprised 4chan never attempted anything like it, especially during the era in which 2channel's VIPPERloids were still being produced.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m0R71_1LuDo

Holy shit, DiffSinger can sound like this?

>>17683
Imagine Tori with this sound quality

>>13309
How does this guy know so many people?

Feels like every VIPPERLOID's fate is to end up:
a) Abandoned
b) On DiffSinger
c) On ACE STUDIO
There's a secret 4th option which is "On DiffSinger and ACE STUDIO at the same time", which is what happened to Ruko and Ritsu.

>>18012
Voicevox in Ooka Miko's case lol

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1DY-yf3PKYg

Dang this sounds insane.

>>19154
Lunai usually has the best quality voicebanks. You can think of them as this engine's Crypton.

How long till a DS voicebank actually takes off? I never see anyone use this engine for anything other than covers

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>>19166
Gahata Meiji seems to be the most popular

How can we make DiffSinger succeed? It's one of the best engines available. It has recognizable voicebanks such as Gahata Meiji, Yokune Ruko and Namine Ritsu. Yet it feels like no one uses it, not even for covers.

>>23340
The problem with DiffSinger is that on top of being a bit of a hassle to set up, none of the major producers are aware of it or appear to have any sort of interest in it. The day a DiffSinger original gets popular there may be an increase in DS users, but its all up to the producers in the end.

Also call me delusional but I think things will change a little with the release of TORIKO EN. God knows if that will ever come out, but the potential is way too big for it to not have at least a little bit of impact on the engine. Sure, she's a wholoid now, but the fully animated Spoken For cover and all the people here saying they'll make songs with her once EN drops gives me hope.

>>23341
That doesn't sound too far fetched. I just hope her voicebank drops eventually because so far both Voxsoft and the voice provider have been radio silent, but I assume it's because of Sena DS

>>23341
It's not hard to set up, just use the Lunai fork of OpenUTAU and drag and drop the Diffsinger onto it

>>23359
Lunai fork is better than regular OpenUTAU

>>23340
They should just release a version of OpenUtau with it pre-installed that's not Lunai

>>23367
That's what Lunai is for tho

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MqAiUgBPTRM

>>13309
So the beta for Neru is being worked on. Not sure what happened to the others since the original tweet got taken down.

>>23380
I didn't know Diffsinger could sound this good honestly, this is almost SV quality

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AlUWs3-wx4Q

I love Denka Shaa's DS

>>23387
Train noises btw

>>23380
Voice doesnt sound right for Neru to me but quality is good but I don't like the voice. Sounds like a nasally valley girl American popstar.

>>23392
Pretty sure the person who voiced NEO is Mexican

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The future of DiffSinger is in RIKOchan's hands

>>23392
Even if she did get a voice it would never sound right to fans, because she isn't supposed to have one in the first place.

>>23393
I assumed it was a Russian, because she does have a bit of an accent

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>>23405
It's a spanish person

>>23387
How the hell do you make something like this out of train noises

>>23516
Probably RVC -> DiffSinger

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xbl9m9pVQJc

A Toad Diffsinger came out on April 1st Btw

>>23627
I had the idea for a joke leeka that sounds like this a while back but i don't think it'd be doable now

Is there such thing as a Jinriki DiffSinger the way there are Jinriki UTAUs?

>>25064
yeah but the community looks down on it due to its similarities with those RVC voicebanks that are made without the VP's consent.

however, there are ethical ones like adachi rei and denka shaa (made with the creator's consent plus made up of non-human samples), and supposedly that new acme iku diffsinger that's going around was trained on her maidloid audio and might be made with StudioS' consent.

Is there a voicebank that 'defines' this engine like Vocaloid has Miku and UTAU has Teto?

>>25888
Too early to say because DiffSinger is still pretty new and not many big producer use it.
Right now it seems to be Gahata Meiji but I could totally see Toriko taking her place if her voicebank got sound quality related updates, new singing modes and multilang support (more than just JP/EN)

>>25892
Those things are all planned but progress will be slow, her voice provider can't be out here recording every single day of her life.

>>25893
In an unexpected turn of events it could also be Akita Neru considering her NEO voicebank is already popular and an AI one would obviously be even more popular since they're all the rage in the vsynth space right now.

>>25888
Teto took over SV also if you think about it

>>25893
Multilang aside from English and Japanese is planned?

>>25923
I think her voice provider said something like that but i don't wanna put words in her mouth

Does DiffSinger have any original characters that aren't ports of UTAUs?

>>26167
Technically Riko counts since her UTAU voicebank wasn't supposed to exist at all. I'm still happy we got one tho.

>>26168
also the UTAU is voiced by a different person

It kinda sucks that DiffSinger is so obscure because the potential is insane and so many Vipperloids have official voicebanks on it. People complain about Ruko and Ritsu on ACE yet they have superior, free voicebanks on this engine that no one uses.

>>26173
I think things will change over the next couple years as people get used to recording it, using it in OpenUTAU, etc.

>>26179
DiffSinger isn't exactly very friendly or accessible for long time UTAU creators. There's a reason TORIKO took so long to release aside from the voice provider going MIA. I will say that it's easy to use though. Using it isn't the same thing as making it and as long as you have the right vocoders installed it's the same thing as using SynthV.

>>26180
Yeah. I think it won't be as bad once documentation is as good and plentiful as it is for UTAU voice recording techniques. Won't be as easy as a CV, but still, not as bad.

>>26181
I hope someone eventually creates some sort of guide. The ones that currently exist aren't very useful and most of the useful stuff is sadly locked behind dicksword servers that i'm never going to join.

>>26180
>as long as you have the right vocoders installed
I don't understand why vocoders are a voicebank-level configuration and not changeable on the project level like UTAU resamplers. It would certainly simplify the voicebank installation process.
>>26182
Agreed. There is like 1 google doc I'm aware of and it isn't perfect.

>>26183
If you mean like the resamplers then I agree. Hopefully someone eventually makes a fork of OpenUTAU that makes vocoders function like that.

Is there a database of Diffsingers out there like there is UTAU wiki?

>>26186
besides vocadb there's a channel in the diffsinger dicksword server and i think that's it

>>26190
There's a DiffSinger wiki actually but it lacks stuff
https://diffsinger.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:DiffSinger_voicebanks

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kok2nxtc-fc

So does anybody here actually care about the other DiffSingers aside from TORI? I wonder how many people are aware of Ruko's.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JhlUujWBpog

>>26493
I tried using Ritsu's, but it couldn't handle high notes at all... I kind of forgot about it, I'll try swapping the oudep for him and see if it improves things.

I like Hatsune Kumi too, sadly there are not a lot of covers using their diffsinger.

has anyone here ever tried converting their UTAUs to diffsinger?

>>26494
Did you end up swapping the vocoder?

Weird question but are there any "original" DiffSingers? I'm not talking about songs, but voicebanks. Are there any voicebanks made specifically for this engine that have never been on another engine before?.

>>29794
ik lunai has this one based on a streamer
https://lunaiproject.github.io/singers/nessie

>>29797
god this one sounds very realistic. i didn't know diffsingers could sound this good.

>>29794
I guess Toriko counts?. She was never meant to be an UTAU in the first place. The UTAU only exists because people were tired of waiting for the DiffSinger.
I wonder if we'll ever receive a CVVC or a VCV of her considering new art is being made for it and I wonder if she'll be voiced by VIP or Twal.

>>29955
The art is for the original UTAU because the current design is basically a placeholder render for a voicebank that, like you said, wasn't planned. It uses the same art as the DiffSinger.

>>29794
To add onto a previous anon, Lunai also has Katyusha (https://lunaiproject.github.io/singers/katyusha)
The main NeoDIVA folk are all original as well, I think https://neodiva.xyz/#vocalists
If you want more you can also browse VocaDB by enabling "Root voicebank (no base)" in Advanced Settings. TLDR there's quite a few

>>29964
katyusha is a rebrand of an utau tho

>>29961
>>29955
Maybe the VocaDB entry should be corrected to have the DS as a base? But at the same time, it did come out first.

>>29966
would the mods even allow that

So what are the current most popular or most used DiffSingers?

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>>29974
its not the most popular / most used but these are the most tagged diffsingers on vocadb. as in, a lot of people voted the "diffsinger" tag on them. with meiji having 6 votes.

>>29975
<riko at #4
the people yearn for AI leekas

>>29977
Ena is planned but I have no idea when dev will start

I know that riko was meant to be THE diffsinger leekaloid but maybe, just maybe, we should make a diffsinger exclusive

whatever happened to that acme iku diffsinger that was being developed?

>>29990
The Lunai one is a private test build and whether it will be released or not we'll see. No idea what happened with the Kurotrash one.

>>29990
>>29993
Sorry to crush your dreams but it won't be released because they'd need permission from both the studio and the voice actress. The VA's email is invalid now and studio S hasn't replied to anyone since 2023. They're not even first ones to attempt Iku' DS with various degrees of success, but no one got permission. I learned all that from the DS dicksword server. Your best bet is labeling it yourself and training.

>>30001
>The VA's email is invalid now and studio S hasn't replied to anyone since 2023
Damn. Even the site appears to be dead, which is weird because I remember it being online just last year when I wanted to contact Sayaka.

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>>30001
Here's someone else's attempt to train her btw if you need inspiration

>>30003
she sounds cute

Has anyone considered using the UTAU -> DiffSinger method on any of the TCC voicebanks?
https://tcc.39chan.moe/

>>30005
i would love a suiren diffsinger. also is it me or cvvc suiren has like a russian accent.

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anyway new vocoder

>>30007
judging by the clips on their website it sounds a bit low quality compared to the one toriko currently uses (which i forgot the name of) but its good to have new ones

>>30007
how does it compare to the chinese one people were using for toriko?

>>30006
Sounds spanish to me

>>30003
This is the best one i've heard so far
It has the quality of a Voisona voicebank and it doesn't sound like she's fingering herself while singing

>>30301
that's one way to describe her voice

>>30001
Actually the VP is still active, she just moved the website and email to a new domain

>>29975
Adachi Rei being there is funny honestly but it makes sense

>>31740
Its funny how her DS is essentially a better version of her V6

Is DiffSinger really that irrelevant in the vocalsynth sphere that Tori makes up about 80% of the search results for DiffSinger on Gelbooru?

>>31871
unfortunately

I think the reason DiffSinger is so unpopular is because it doesn't run on potato PCs like other AI synths and the fact that there's barely any exclusive voicebanks. When you think of UTAU, you think of Teto, Momo, Defoko, maybe even Rei. But when you think of DiffSinger, who do you even think about?

>>31873
Unironically, Toriko. She's technically an exclusive too since her UTAU was never really meant to exist. Don't get me wrong i'm glad it does but the goal was always to have her release on DiffSinger first.

>>31873
Tori will always be the first thing I think of when I think of Diffsinger :)

>>31873
I think of TORIKO when it comes to DiffSinger exclusives
Meiji and Rei are more popular but they're ports of UTAUs

>>31874
this is unrelated but for the longest time i thought her name was "Toriko Ai"

>>31879
Sounds like Prisoner of Love

Any updates on Riko with crosslang + singing modes?

>>31881
Its not in development as far as i know but its planned. Also she already has english/japanese crosslang, not sure if other languages are planned.

>>31881
I think someone who worked on her said she's not even being developed rn

>>31898
Correct

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https://github.com/matax2bi/ezv-for-diffsinger/releases/tag/v2.0.0
new vocoder

>>34561
Test it on Riko, see if it unlocks her lower pitch, which is the biggest issue with 1.2 right now

>>34564
I do hear improvement in lower range, high notes are kinda the same
low notes old vocoder vs ezv then high notes old vs new

>>34658
EZV is slightly noisier but sounds a lot better than the original vocoder, nice.

>>34659
actually what am i even saying the original is more noisy lol

>>34658
Feels like an overall improvement to me

>>34658
EZV sounds a little muffled but better than the original vocoder. I wonder if Vox guys will replace it or keep the old one.

>>13309
Whatever happened to AI Neru

>>34953
I think the creator's too busy looking at yaoi to work on it kek

i think a while back i remember seeing someone here saying that there was a diffsinger specific software in development. any updates on that?.

>>29955
Without counting UTAU ports she probably is the most popular DiffSinger now that i think about it

>>29794
Was ALYS ever released on any engine before DiffSinger?

>>36631
ALYS was on Alter/Ego and there was a cancelled Vocaloid voicebank

>>36635
also UTAU

>>36623
Isn't she an UTAU port?

>>36670
Technically but she was never really meant to be an UTAU in the first place. Its just something that kinda just happened.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y0Tp7v-9Kyw

>>36635
Tangential but I stumbled on an old news clip about her. She made it shockingly far for a western voicebank

>>36840
She had concerts?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=T4HZdbu_mSU

>>36843
There were a couple Crunchyroll-backed concerts around her release. She could've been a big deal if her voicebank production wasn't so troubled.

>>36848
Feels like every country (or rather language) had their own Hatsune Miku back in the day. With concerts and everything.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=T4PHgy5KoOk

By the way, Leora is also on Diff now. I think this is the only time I've seen a fan team allowed to be the official successor of a bankrupt developer.

>>36853
(aside from the Ann and Al thing which may or may not be happening)

>>36853
Does Ruby's DiffSinger count?

>>36856
That one didn't get the OK from Yamaha iirc