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The full archived thread is here btw
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/1874965

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/jp/ reacts to Project Diva

>>3852
Why were there so many tripfags on old /jp/?
>Support Miku's first game or she'll go broke and be forced into the JAV industry to make rent
I lol'd

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Lily announcement(s)

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Sukone Tei
Man, they really did not like her

>>3855
I'm glad that even 15 years ago we knew that Lily is a slut
>>3856
Actually she is best VIPPERLOID

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>>3857
People call Lily a slut when in reality it's actually Rei

I'm glad we're past the "every vocaloid sounds like miku" era because who listens to Tei and hears Miku?
Also what the hell was the anon in >>3855 on about? what's wrong with Miki and Yuki being cute?

>>3877
This is just a really random guess, but my assumption is just coz she's a girl with a high vocal pitch range
I can't imagine really tho

>>3879
Tei isn't the only voicebank they said this about. Check the archives and you'll see it a lot.

>>3855
>gaijin slut
>she looks like a whore
Lily is never escaping the slut allegations is she

>>3977
She looks like she blows dudes for cheap though

>>3989
Slander

>>3855
Who is "Sensei"? Kiyoteru?

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>>4070
yeah, kiyo-sensei. even vocaloid casuals used to follow voicebank releases and AHS filtered most of them lol

>>3852
>I'm hoping they'll have Teto too
Oh 2009 anon, you're not gonna believe this

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>>3851
>I refuse to acknowledge Luka as part of the Vocaloid family!
Hope that anon has changed his mind in the 16 years that have passed since this post

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Any SeeU archives?

Does anybody have any archives from when Teto SV was released and the time period in which Mesmerizer really took off?

I know 39chan itself was created just a few months after Mesmerizer released so sadly there's no archive of that but i guess the discussions about its repercussions will give people from the future an insight into what people thought of them in 2025 (>>1585)

>>4829
It's crazy to me how influential that song became in such a short period of time. By the time 39chan launched it was already popular and had a ton of copycat songs already.

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>>4829
Could only find this on Warosu

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>>4833
Here, I found an archive of the /jp/ Vocaloid thread when Teto SV was announced

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>>4834
And finally, here's Mesmerizer
A lot of people just saw it as another viral song

>>4835
it was just another viral song tbf.

>>4843
Still is

>>4834
i like how the reception was mostly positive. now that she's popular they hate her because muh popular = bad.

>>4835
lol didn't that last guy post here once? typing style is oddly familiar.

>>4834
Before Teto SV came out they were talking about Zundamon btw

>>4835
And thus, Tetofag was born

>>4834
Probably the last time that board was actually excited over vocaloid related news. Things have only gotten worse after that.

>>7144
Until Miku V6 comes out, and that's if it comes out in the first place considering she's already suffering from Big AL Syndrome

Can't remember where exactly it was on, but I recall an early Myriad Virtual Singer forum where they were talking about Vocaloid when it was first announced back in 2004.

It was very funny 'cause they said something about Vocaloid not taking off. Quite funny considering where we are today.

>>7917
It did, just not in the way they were probably thinking

>>4833
This was probably the last time Vocaloid threads on /jp/ were decent. After this they became irredeemable dogshit.

>>10175
Elaborate
I've used /jp/ before but didn't know they had vocaloid threads until recently

>>10176
nta but before sv teto the vocaloid generals (on /jp/) were a lot more civilized and similar to what /leek/ is now. less twitter screenshots and drama, less bait, actual discussion about the songs and characters.

>>3855
Wow. She wasn't even out and people were already calling her a whore.

>>4851
>i like how the reception was mostly positive. now that she's popular they hate her because muh popular = bad.
"Everybody loves the underdog, and then they take an underdog and make him a hero, and they hate him"

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This is everything I could find for IA.
Nobody cared about her then, nobody cares about her now.
Being IA is suffering.

>>13946
i do

>>13947
Thanks for caring about her

>>13946
She was one of the best sounding vocaloids from that era so yes i care. The new one sounds alright.

>>13946
Things will get better IAbro. When the new voicebank releases you'll start seeing new songs with her. 1st Place marketing her a lot lately also helps.

>>13971
Those are strong words, maybe she was one of the most flexible but I was never that thrilled to see her in another Jin song.. might be biased since I associate her with the ~2012 drop in popularity of vocaloid mascot characters vs. OCs.

>>14111
The OC stuff was less common in the early 2010s tho

https://youtube.com/watch?v=peOdsZaFmHI

>>14111
IA enjoyed a small window of the mascot era. Some of her early songs (like 2012-2014) feature her in the PV. In some cases she's even formed as the basis for the OC like in Heisei Project and Six Trillion Years, something like the Evillious Chronicles.

The real drop was around 2015 which was brought up by an utaite lamenting this in a video (Coleena summarized the whole thing here: https://papercoleena.tumblr.com/post/123558413480). Nanahoshi Orchestra actually made a song in reference to that utaite's sentiment.

To associate her with the decline is a bit unfair, granted Kagerou Project was one of the major reasons for the decline in mascot culture, but she was simply caught in the crossfire. The fact that 1st Place tries really hard nowadays to market a character for her makes it seem like the whole thing was an accident and they're trying to recover from it.

>>14118
You're right, I'm thinking of Kagepro. I appreciate that 1st Place is trying to characterize IA, especially with her V6 reboot, but man they have some weird management practices...

I could never get into KagePro because i never knew where to start lol

>>14123
At the time it was literally just like, listen to the songs as they come out and try to guess what the plot is. They did a manga/anime earlier but I never engaged with them. So really I'd just listen to the music in order of release.

>>14123
the manga and light novel are really good

>>4835
>>4834
If they knew...

>>14173
Well they know now

>>13946
Try being a Lily fan, you'll have a worse time

>>14197
TRY BEING A CHIKA FAN

>>14202
Miriam fans have it worse than all of you lol

I remember reading a couple of archived vocaloid threads from the 2000s and it's funny how many people thought Miku was overrated while Teto was some sort of hidden gem
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Some funny reactions to AVANNA on the old Mikuchan

>>19305
People had mixed opinions about Aki Glancy back in the day I'm not surprised

>>15645
Teto was never obscure, she just wasn't mainstream, which i guess she is now
That being said though, I prefer Yuki and IA

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Not exactly an announcement post but i found this in the old Mikuch archives and find it funny that people were saying this during the golden era of Vocaloid

>>20867
history repeats itself!

>>20867
Obviously the concern is overstated but this wasn't an entirely uncommon perspective. Arguably much of the reason Vocaloid exited its "golden age" around 2013-2014 is because sentiment like this boiled over to the point of being self-fulfilling. Bandwagoners attached themselves Vocaloid, it stopped being trendy, and interest trailed off. It's worth keeping this in mind for any cultural trend that appears to have unstoppable momentum online.

>>20880
and now people are saying this again lol

>>20867
People have always had this "old X better, new X bad" mentality, especially Vocaloid fans. If i'm not mistaken 2011 is when Vocaloid and Hatsune Miku started becoming popular in the west, those weird Toyota commercials are from around that era. So i can kinda understand where that anon is coming from even if i disagreed then and disagree now.

>>20904
The best thing to come out of Miku becoming normified in the early 2010s is the Domino's Commercial

>>20867
Damn i kinda wish that site was still a thing

>>20878
We're very close to coming full circle and hating on things the old fandom hated. Mainstream songs? Check. Fujoshis/Shippers? Check. Pocaloid producers? Ehh, not yet but knowing this fandom it's probably gonna happen.
>>20920
It was literally the same thing as this site except with like 10 more character boards instead of a general one like /c/ and way more tripfags. You're legit not missing out on much. On top of that 39chan has the Mikuchan theme.

>>20922
I disagree, i feel like pirate producers will become more respected in the community (the Western one at least, because Japan hates them) due to AIbros. Pirate producers might not pay for Vocaloid but they at least make covers and originals. AIbros just put draw a Miku face on their turd and go "Yeah this is a vocaloid song". Not to mention they're completely blacklisted from sites like VocaDB and if you're caught using shit like Suno your career is over.

>>20922
It's only Twitter that hates the fujos with a burning passion. We welcome them here and they even have their own threads like the fic thread and some yaoi ones on /c/.

>>20923
Yep, you hit the nail on the head anon. OKISO and GluttonousP are perfect examples.

>>20923
Anti-piracy people still exist in the fandom, they're just not as common as in the 2010s because Vocaloid is massive now

>>13946
Kill that tripfag

>>20923
This. Not to mention a chunk of newer Vocaloid songs made with discontinued banks like Piko are likely pirated as well and I don’t think Piko fans are gonna give a shit if someone didn’t wanna pay a million bucks to make a song with him. Only a handful of his active western producers have a legit copy tmk.

>>20923
I'll take a song made using pirated vocaloid over a """vocaloid""" song made in Suno like CryDie honestly

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eagerly await the day on this site when they announce a new project diva game

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>>21030
Sorry anon, Project Diva is discontinued. Play our generic mobile rhythm game instead.

If they ever bring back PJD (I doubt they will) I hope they never bring those awful toony visuals from MM back

>>21040
I didn't mind the shading in Megamix personally but i'm glad there's the option to go back to Future Tone's

>>21034
so true but hope becomes the last thing to die when youre delusional #TrustThePlan

>>20922
And now it's apparently cool to hate GHOST again

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>>21161
>now

>>21163
Right, i forgot about the "GHOST ruined vocaloid" era

>>20867
Lol, the "vocaloid used to be good" people just evolve

>>20922
yeah i thought it was a post on this site at first

>>21174
I know for a fact that the mid 2020s will be considered the golden era of Vocaloid by 2030.

>>21195
And they'd be right. People only hate it because of Mesmerizer clones and Xitter infighting but those things can easily be ignored.

>>21195
Silver age, I think. It's too early to say what will have a lasting impact when concerts right now are full of the early hits.

>>21195
I'm going to be honest, there isn't a lot of memorable songs for me. Maybe I'm just becoming jaded.

>>21222
I think that has more to do with the fact that there's songs coming out every 10 minutes and a lot of them top the charts while the rest fade into obscurity. Things were slower in the 2010s.

>>21221
>concerts right now are full of the early hits.
This, but also the problem is that the majority of big songs right now are Teto and you know damn well there will never be something like Magical Mirai with Teto (unless it's fanmade).

>>21223
Things were slower but also more centralized. The nico rankings really helped solidify a set of producers and songs as iconic.

>>21224
I remember Vocarank back in the day but i heard they stopped doing those

>>21221
>early hits
I mean, what do you expect? The old songs are still popular even with the newgens. It's the same thing that happens with 90s bands that fill their setlists with all their 90s singles. People consider them timeless classics.

But i get your point, I think there's a couple songs I'd consider classics from this era but ironically none of them involve the cryptonloids outside of Miku (and even then they're usually duets).

The one 'classic' from the 2020s (if you can call it that) that I want to hear live is Heat Abnormal but I've accepted that it's never gonna happen.

>>21224
I'm curious what people here would consider iconic today. I'm of course referring specifically to newgen producers.

>>21233
You're gonna hate me for this one but Mesmerizer. It basically changed Vocaloid for the entirety of this decade, not sure if for better or for worse, but you can't deny its impact.

>>21232
Agreed but Iyowa in general is an iconic producer this decade

>>21235
Anon said producers not songs but yeah 32ki unintentionally defined this decade with Mesmerizer and i think people do look forward to his new stuff as evidenced by his recent songs

>>21238
I like 32ki, but people only look forward to his music that includes some variation of the Triple Baka squad. His other stuff is good too but everybody just wants MikuTeto kuso and forgets about his other songs

>>21223
TetoLive is a thing but it's small and only held in Japan plus I heard it was expensive.

>>21232
Never say never
Fanmade concerts are a thing and held pretty often in the US

>>21246
Tetolive is even smaller than IA Party

>>21225
The usual uploader (syudou) is still having internet issues. He was scheduled to get fiber to his home but because of some ISP issue, but I think he's been stuck using a dog slow satellite connection. He's apparently compiling data still.

>>21246
It's really fun, in my experience. The more intimate scale instead of sitting in a dome fish bowl or a multi-floor arena is like getting a little bit of Mikufes or early Mikupa flavor. Half the fun of these events are doing the calls and it's better to have a crowd that knows them well instead of a large crowd that knows them somewhat or not at all.

>>21253
Did you go to Teto Live? (The actual concert not the DJ event). I saw footage of it and the room looked very small and crowded, which is usually uncomfortable.

>>21256
I was, though I was also at Teto Sonic. Japan lives aren't really made for comfort to begin with so I don't really pay much mind to more than view angles and sound, and if the drink tickets are rip-off (some have started charging extra for more than water). Duo Music Exchange is definitely small and not usually used for idol style performances, big floor columns as well. The junkiness is sort of why I forge the comparison to Mikufes at all even though Studio Coast was a much nicer venue (RIP), but what I really appreciated most about Teto Live was that the band had equal presence to Teto.

You'll probably find this year's more agreeable. Zepp Shinjuku is actually one of the better Zepps in terms of sound staging and has kusoed floors, so it's not total flatlands at usual junk like Makuhari. Just sort of a bog standard box. The fact that they did move up to a Zepp though means they must have been really confident about attendance.

>>21259
>kusoed
Figamin please relax the filters on this site holy fuck.

>>21260
sl0p being filtered to kuso is funny tho

>>21260
I love how Figamin doesn't even own this site and people still always blame him lol

>>21261
Kissu filters "shit" to "kuso" as well for whatever reason and it always makes me chuckle whenever i see it

>>21260
It's that brazilian Puzzle guy not Figamin, and prior to that it was owned by moth

>>21261
It is funny when you're actually trying to say sl0p but when you're trying to write something like sl0ped it can be annoying

>>21264
Puz is Brazilian?

>>21259
From what I've seen the Teto Live show has this weird DIY vibe to it that I really enjoy. It reminds me of the type of Vocaloid concerts they do at cons.

>>21161
>now
People have always hated Ghost

>>21030
No hope here. Just pure delusion.

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Lily announcement circa 2009-2010 and an anon thinking it's a vipperloid

>>22977
lily confirmed fake and gay

>>22981
lul, i like how "yuri" is the reason they thought it was fake

>>22983
Cause yuri is fake and gay

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Reaction to Miku V3 EN's design, circa 2013

>>22985
yuri is indeed very gay
oh wait we're talking about the name "yuri"

>>28247
>>19305
Funny to see these kinds of caps because it just goes to show that we've been bitching about stuff that doesn't matter for decades. Yes i know that this was on Mikuchan not 39chan but still, same concept, different generation

>>28249
It's a cycle. When the younger fans are our age they'll be complaining about dumb stuff as well.

>>28249
To be fair, I don't think anyone wants to go back to the era where most American promo art looked like this

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>>28259
We should go back even further

>>28261
This but unironically
I love the anime style synths but i would like to see a return of the weird vintage frankenstein stock photo stuff. It felt kinda experimental.

>>28264
maybe we should make one

just maaaybe

>>28264
Only Ann and (V1)AL had the painting art style you're talking about. Every other faceless loid just used stock photos.

>>28382
to think that the Russian model behind Tonio is most likely aware of all the yaoi and shipping art that has been made of him

>>28383
How do you know this

>>28398
nta but the russian model was found and (allegedly) did a q&a with an user on tumblr. might've been chorva.

>>28442
as far as i know though, the interview is... ding ding you guessed it, lost media

>>28442
It was her yeah

>>28261
Oh she’s not a stock photo. She’s a Lena Horne movie poster

>>28448
Both of them are. V1Al is just Frankenstein in a 70's disco outfit. And yet it's still better than the design we ended up getting.

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>>28449
Ann isn’t a stock photo though, this is the movie poster in question. It’s just photoshopped and edited.

>>28454
yeah i was saying that she's a movie poster and so is Al

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>>28454
Al's boxart is sourced from this image

>>28261
>>28463
These are pretty dope in retrospective. Also they might not be edited movie posters but Eclipsed Sounds' voicebanks use similar, non anime art styles

>>28448
Crazy that she was still alive when Ann came out

Was trying to find Sweet Ann stuff in the archives and I was surprised to see that some people were looking forward to the redesign that never came.

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>>28488
Fast forward to 2026 and now there's a Future song sampling Miku and Kanye West's daughter is a Vocaloid fan

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>>28487
It's not that big of a deal now, but back then people absolutely hated her design. It was so bad that people even made fanloids to try and make her cute. By 2011, Big AL already had been redesigned to the bara yaoi thing we all know and love but Ann never got the new design they promised.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ro618HiX6uk

Never forget the Jane Kitto x Sweet Ann collab

Does anybody have any archived content from when SynthV was annnounced or when it released?

>>33348
The SynthV thread on VocaVerse started before it came out
https://vocaverse.network/threads/synthesizer-v-discussion-thread.202/

>>33351
Vocaverse existed in 2018?
I thought it came out in 2020

>>33403
It was launched around 2018 by the same team behind VNN if i'm not mistaken.
Ironically VNN stopped being updated a few years after VocaVerse came out.

You know what's funny? This thread will eventually come full circle and people will start posting screenshots from here. The first few posts in the V6 thread are already a perfect example of how disappointed people were with the engine at the time.

>>28247
These Mikuchan screenshots really feel like I'm looking at 39chan from an alternate reality because I'm sure if that thread was made today, those are exactly the kind of replies you'd get

>>34710
It launched without any remarkable voicebanks and the editor it came with back then was kind of shitty. Miku V6, FAN-ding and updates have changed that.

>>34711
It kind of was. I got to use it around the time they were partnered with Vocaloid Otaku and it was essentially the same as this site in terms of userbase. Only difference is a lot of the users are now in their late 30's to early 40's. Riipah himself was staff on it.