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this thread is to discuss lost media regarding vocaloid, UTAU and any vocal synthesizer.

this thread is for anything that embarks the topic of lost media, such as cancelled voicebanks, songs, song covers, up to even content such as phone apps, games, or even fanarts. whatever you want to discuss about!

to this day i cry because ring got cancelled, although at least we have a fanmade voicebank of her.
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This is probably not lost media so i apologize if its the wrong theread but i have been trying to find this sexual UTAU song about vaginal infections in English (it might've been a cover). The thumbnail featured a girl with purple hair making a disgusted face. Pic related is what i remember it looking like. I also remember the tuning being insanely realistic for UTAU standards, i'm talking SynthV levels of realism.
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>>2748
That's literally +IMPALE
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>>2750
Oh it is. But the version i remember had a purple girl not luka and it sounded realistic.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=q8KzHhi_vwg YouTube
>>2748
You are probably thinking of this cover
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>>2964
HOLY FUCK this is the EXACT cover i was thinking of, thank you anon
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Found this neat little site where they archive discontinued/lost voicebanks from UTAU and other engines. They even have some of the controversial voicebanks like Koronba4-Gou and NITTON.
https://ulmteam.blogspot.com/
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>>8058
>Nitton
Oh that thing
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Many years ago I know a song featuring Luka (and Miku as backing vocals) with some 100 views. It's called Rebellion with Megurine Luka and the artist named themselves Girldemo (after Angel Beats! probably). I still remember its melody.
The only thing I have of it right now is a dead Youtube link. It used to have a NicoNico link but it was already dead when I found it back then I think.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=vtMPIJHy0hg [Embed]
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>>14641 (Me)
I actually still have a copy of it in my old PC at my parent's home. I brought a copy when I moved countries but I lost this one when I bricked my new PC (I have since made it a habit to back up all important files because of this). I don't know why I didn't keep the file in the flash drive I bought but it seems like I didn't (I think I was planning on using it for something else and it had no space). I actually lost my entire downloaded playlist, except the ones that featured IA because I had always brought that playlist with me on my phone. I have not redownloaded anything since then, but I eventually discovered a few years ago that this song had vanished completely from the internet, and I felt guilty since then.
The only way for me to recover this is to somehow recover it from my old PC at my parent's house, which I think is also dead from the last few times I tried to turn it on. I should try some data recovery service next time but I haven't gotten the chance to, and there are no guarantees that will even work.
Lukabros, if you are reading this, I am so sorry for not taking better care of her. I definitely don't deserve her especially after I had abandoned her in favor of IA despite the fact that Luka was actually the one that got me into Vocaloid, though she was never my wife and I was always just a casual fan of her. Still, I wish I wasn't this retarded with my files.
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>>14642 (Me)
Digging deeper, it looks like I found the NND link, but according to Web Archive it was at least accessible in 2021. So maybe I was wrong about the NND link being dead when I first found it (I found it around 2014-2015).
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https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22647135 [Embed]

Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way to watch it through Web Archive.
At least it looks like the producer is still somewhat active. He goes by Re:N now.
>https://www.nicovideo.jp/user/22465258
>https://x.com/Girldemo93
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There's a few lost songs by a producer known as z_grdm, previously Poetfog and Chiptune123. Most songs by them at least have the instrumentals uploaded, however two songs remain "lost" even by the producer: Nothing/何もない and Pity Party. I have the on-vocal for Pity Party, however I lack the PV, which featured Utatane Piko in Tone Rion's outfit switching from Pink/Yellow/Green/Blue on a blue curtain background. Its melody was referenced by the producer in a later song, "Eve":
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3sktEtgXzg8 [Embed]
which is similar in meaning
何もない had a black background with a sketch of Gakupo with white lines
I should add, I'm probably the third in line for who got a copy of Pity Party, if it originated from who I think it did, I'm surprised it never ended up on their reupload channel while that existed.
I've reuploaded Pity Party's MP3 here: https://files.catbox.moe/52b3vt.mp3
I was hesitant about uploading it for a while because I don't want to incite anything, for MANY reasons, but I feel like keeping lost media preserved is important.
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>>14653
You could try getting in touch with the producer, maybe they still have it
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>>14666
I would try if Xitter didn't gatekeep it's DMs with Premium. He didn't enable the setting to receive DMs from everyone, because that's not the default setting.
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>>14670
They do that now?
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>>14676
It says I need to get verified to send him a message but you need Premium to get verified. It's not just him either, so I'm thinking that's the default setting.
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>>14642
>>14662
OP here and also someone who's into lost media. if there's a producer you used to follow and don't remember the songs they made, you can use nicolog.jp and introduce the sm/nm niconico link code of the song you want. this will bring the uploader and its videos, even if removed (although not accessible, only technical information)
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>>14681
as for youTube there's this website called youtube techrobo, you can input a link and it can fetch if it's archived somewhere, though it mostly brings up data and not the video (since archive.org doesn't really tend to archive videos most of the time)
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>>14681
I'm one of the anons you replied to, the producer only used YouTube unfortunately, but one of their first songs managed to get mirrored and preserved on Bilibili of all places by an Oliver superfan
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So, does anybody have Hitori Kanawo's art now that his Xitter is completely gone?
I can find some of his stuff on Danbooru and I know some of his Sexy Minus promo art got post here before the video came out. But the recent stuff is lost, gone from the internet.
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>>25597
Why did he delete everything
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>>25608
I would assume its because of the harassment but artists in general have a tendency to delete everything for no reason, especially Japanese ones.
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I recently saw a this video that talked about a way of finding lost media from cache's that did not properly delete and some program had been developed to search it and they have a form you can fill out to make requests.
https://sindexmon.github.io/decache

Also here is a Japanese internet archive site that may hold some stuff Wayback Machine from Internet Archive does not. Looks like the site has existed since 2012 when I checked whois info.
https://gyo.tc/
Also available at this url which has existed since 2005 so it may be their archives go back that far. However it also appears they have a paid feature for private archives so some things might not be accessible.
https://megalodon.jp

Hopefully this helps someone.
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Speaking of lost media is there an actual reason why Suzune Ring and Hibiki Lui were never released? From what I understand the website just stopped working one day and that was it. I wasn't very active during that era of Vocaloid.
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>>35434
Nobody really knows for certain but it was basically that. VocaNext's website went offline out of nowhere and they stopped being active in general.
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>>35435
Damn. Is it known who was behind the project?.
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Vocanext was basically just a primitive version of FAN-DING if you think about it
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>>35441
You're thinking of Everyone's Vocaloid project; Vocanext was the company that took over after EVP died.
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Just saw >>35434 so gonna de-anonymize from >>35449.

They're basically cursed. I might have mentioned it before as an anon, but bankruptcy and the 2011 tsunami affected development big time. I could be misremembering the order of events, but I believe it was EVP that was affected by the tsunami and then when I went looking at the old webarchives, I was able to find some supporting evidence that makes sense if VocaNext was the one that went bankrupt. I don't remember everything accurately from the conversations I had with the rest of the Ring search team, so please forgive me if there are some inaccuracies and that I can't pull up proper sources.

An odd detail I remember from the conversations is that there was another company or circle involved, but because there's so much that is either not public, not translated, or long since deleted, I can't really go back and confirm it.

What I can gather from the VocaNext closure, though, is that they put a lot of money into marketing and that use of funds is likely why they had to file for bankruptcy. There was basically an event that it seems like a team from their company ran to both promote Ring and as a general vocaloid event. Unfortunately, the event ran at a severe loss. Not enough money was made back from ticket sales. This is the same event where the game demo disc was initially distributed.

Some added details: unfortunately, we were never able to confirm if her beta was distributed at this event or successfully reach out to the circles that attended the event during our initial search a few years back. This means we're kind of stuck waiting on someone with it to upload it or a disc with her on it to appear for sale.
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>>35450
The 2011 tsunami also gave us Zundamon...
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>>35465
Tohoku Project had to take a sacrifice.

Also realized I forgot to mention, Lui never made it outside of the concept phase. When I was looking at the archives, they had opened auditions for him, but no VP was announced. So the artwork of Lui is all we have.
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>>35465
Just like how My Chemical Romance formed because of 9/11
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>>35450
>>35465
So you're telling me that a major tragedy had to happen for this thing to exist
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>>35484
Wouldn't be the first time
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>>35434
really wish they would just leak like luan and lucia
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>>36049
I mean, like TD said, Lui never started development outside of character art, and the likelihood of Ring just leaking seems extremely low if they haven’t had luck with their leads.

I think the best we have is that one Utau bank someone made years back
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>>36049
>>36124
might be delusional, but imagine if ring's files are inside V3 or in V3's devkit, similar to what happened with synthv KAFU's leak, lol
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>>36129
Can confirm they are not there in the files that went public. You'd need the specific files from VocaNext or EVP.
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>>36388
I'm not very hopeful tbh. Japan is notorious for taking copyright too seriously, making the preservation of lost media very hard. I doubt you can just talk to a producer or a developer and expect them to hand you a copy of the voicebank. Not to mention that VN/EVP are anonymous.
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>>36405
It’s worse than you say. We did have leads like I previously mentioned, I believe bat had reached out to a few, but the groups on the list we had either did not respond or responded with bad news (either they never had it, only had a copy of the game disc, or did have it but no longer do). Not to mention, the discs that were handed out were rewritable and rewritable discs have a tendency to be more prone to disc rot, this is actually what made our copy of the game unplayable. While we do have a working version of the game demo now, there’s a possibility that if we did somehow find Ring, she could be corrupt beyond repair and the search has restart all over again.

At this rate, it’s not impossible but very slim, but we’d have to rely on a beta disc managing to slip out onto the secondhand market. We have had this happen with a Prize Galaco box which only 3 ever existed as display pieces or internal team gifts.

Before anyone asks, our leads have gone unpublished because we want to avoid what happened when Vivi went public. We don’t want bad actors to harass those who were linked to Ring even if they never had her to begin with.
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>>36469
Re-reading this, sorry for the rough grammar at points. Should go to bed now lol
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do you anons know or have a favourite UTAU that got all of its information swiped off the internet? as for me it's yuki yabanne, an UTAUloid made by crusher. she was previously known as yuki awesomene. her reboot as yuki yabanne has little information, to the point her voicebank was reuploaded in 2021.

as for yuki awesomene, sure there's little information of her, but her wiki article is still up.
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>>37679
I have a bunch, one of them is Hoshine Stella :( I miss her and the author, their art and covers were really good
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>>37679
She hasn't been wiped off the internet but Makune Hachi
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>>37681
from what little i know, it seems that her creator, felichanxx/felielle, had stepped away from the UTAUloid community for a while and then returned around 2022-2024, even bringing new voice banks for stella and a new design. however, it seems she got angry at the UTAU community.

turns out i investigated and she has been tracing art for years and now traces AI kuso, sadly. bad author good creation, i guess
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>>37679
not all its information, but gii ariya's page got deleted from the UTAU wiki for "voicebank inactivity" and "having no download" despite her website still being fully functional and the voicebank being featured in multiple PVs and UTAU medleys
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>>37684
>turns out i investigated and she has been tracing art for years and now traces AI kuso, sadly. bad author good creation, i guess
source?
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>>37687
there's a youtube video that comes up when searching the name felielle, as for the retirement and such there's a reddit post about it.

as for more trace proof, there's a somewhat old (2017) deviantart journal about her tracing, i'm not sure if this enters on drama territory so i'll just say that

pictured is a comment on the r/utau post i found, which isn't drama adjacent so i'll link it

https://www.reddit.com/r/utau/comments/1jvhu5h/whatever_happened_to_hoshine_stella_and_her/
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>>37679
another one that wasn't completely wiped off the internet, but I feel like Kamirei is close enough out of my favs.

Her wiki page and downloads are still up, but her creator seemingly either abandoned, deleted or deactivated most accounts with her old alias. Which makes her a little tricky to find content of, atop of already being somewhat unpopular back then.

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