I have used YouTube all my life. Sometimes NicoNico if the song isn't on YouTube (for example most Vocacolle songs on release).

I use both the Youtube and Bilibili websites. I mainly discover new music through the home page recommendations on Bilibili but I have also had new songs I've liked come up on Youtube radio autoplay. A lot of the Japanese/English songs on Bilibili are reuploads though, but most reposters do link back to the original links on nico or youtube.

I subscribe to all of the above through RSS (Inoreader). Geneally I use Nico because it's the most comprehensive catalog since many producers aren't uploading to YouTube, but also because I'm a sucker that pays for premium. Nico was planning to get rid of user RSS feeds soon so I'll probably have to move a lot of them to external scrapers like RSSHub.

I mostly just use Youtube for listening to music so the Revanced apps are good enough for me

I use an RSS feed but for 39chan lol

>>19629
What's the benefit to using an RSS feed over checking the website? Not trying to be confrontational I'm genuinely curious.

>>19631
You get a notification every time there's a new post

Youtube or Nicovideo
It depends on where the song is hosted

>>19615
>>19712
Same

I probably should have previously mentioned you dont need a VPN to get Nicovideos to load in PipePipe outside Japan.

Just curious but did anyone here get to use Niconico back in the day to discover music? I know various Eng Sub channels took songs from there and reuploaded them on Youtube (reprints).

>>25520
I only use it during VocaColle for obvious reasons

>>25520
Like, during the sub era specifically? Since Nico's still around

>>19631
I use it just to check if anyone has replied to me but 39chan's RSS works so that you get a notificatiom every time there's a new post

>>25520
No. But I did sometimes visit to check out the scrolling comments. It’s a shame the comment region setting is so difficult to find now

>>25520
I honestly did not know of it till the 2020s so I never really explored Nicovideos till relatively recent.

>>25520
I did briefly, yeah, I love how reliable the tags are.

>>25563
It would be cool to browse a Youtube front-end with navigation by VocaDB tags.

>>25567
Not saying i can do it but i'd like to give it a try. What did you have in mind?.

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>>25571
I'm basically imagining a Youtube-style interface, only displaying songs in VocaDB, with navigation by VocaDB tags.

My main gripe with VocaDB is that their view song on external site button is a hassle. My gripe with the YT Vocaran website is that old popular songs swamp the rankings, and there's not much filtering you can do. And for YT, the UI is good, but the algorithm has a tendency to route you towards the same videos often (moreso now that I don't log in there) and the ability to search is poor.

I think in my ideal world some website would frankenstein the best pars of those together for a vocaloid-focused experience. See pictures. Maybe there could be subscriptions for certain groups of tags (ex. make your own feed for Miku rock from XYZ artists).

>>25614
I like your idea

>>25537
Don't tell me they removed the scrolling comments

>>25652
They’re still there, it’s just that if you’re located outside Japan and want to view the Japanese comments (nearly all of them) you have to navigate through a bunch of obscure, inscrutable menus.

>>25664
I just have to scroll to the bottom of the homepage and set it to Japanese occasionally

>>25614
This would be cool

>>25614
Is it possible to even pull this off with VocaDB's API?

>>25751
I’m not super into programming, and I only looked at their API documentation for a bit, but I guess maybe it is. I think the way to do it would be to cache all the needed information (links, titles, tags, thumbnails?) and refresh it once daily.
To limit the load on their servers you could limit it to songs posted within X years. Or, like, freeze everything posted over a year ago (assume the tags won’t change much) and then refresh the recent stuff once a day.

>>25755 (Me)
Actually, no, the smarter way to query it would probably be like
>Songs over 1 year old: Refresh once per year
>Songs over 1 month old: Refresh once per month
>Songs under 1 month old: Refresh once per day
Depending on how big the database is and how often contributors add new info to old songs. I’m pretty sure I saw some kind of querying functionality so I’m assuming that kind of setup is possible. Totally an assumption, I don’t think I’ve used an API before ever. But I think all the information is there outside of the YT-based popularity metric for sorting, maybe there’s a way to get at something similar.

>>25758 (Me)
Wait, no, I’m not done. Youtube’s API apparently gives you 10k tokens for free, and you should be able to pull 50 viewcounts per token, so 50k pieces of viewcount info per day. VocaDB seems like it has maybe 500k songs in it (just looked at their graphs page) so it would take maybe like 10 days to backfill viewcounts for all songs, fine, then you could set up some kind of system to prioritize viewcount refreshes going forward. Sounds fine. But I am thinking too hard about something I have no actual idea how to do.

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>>25571
It's not finished but is something like this what you had in mind?

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>>25762
>>25763
Few things worth mentioning:
* Tags are messy but they work and that's what matters
* I couldn't figure out a way of adding related songs like in anon's pic so I went with "More from artist" instead. VocaDB already has a feature like this but it kinda sucks.
* Site is a bit slow when it comes to loading results, probably because it uses the VocaDB API. But it's still faster than VocaDB itself.
* It's not finished, but it's usable. I'll post a link when it's a bit more stable.

>>25762
Awesome, looking forward to when you finish it

>>25762
Yeah, this looks great. Ideally the homepage has a recent/trending section.
I think there will be a need to save VocaDB’s database locally if this becomes public (their API calls out thousands of requests per day as being excessive) but this already looks useful to me.

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>>25781
That's doable, but I don't know if I could make it look like the first image you sent due to the way search and filters work. Right now the homepage just looks like this.

>>25763
>>25762
Is it vibecoded though? Not that I mind, as long as its usable, but I'm curious.

>>25788
Partially. There's things I couldn't figure out on my own that I admittedly had to resort to AIkuso for (seriously, working with APIs is hell). But for the most part, not really. Design was partially inspired by Invidious.

>>25789
How finished is it right now?

>>25783
neat project, excited for when it releases

>>25783
It looks great

>>25783
It's still a bit rough but here's what I have
https://zunko.neocities.org/vocaviewer/

>>25880
Immensely cool.

>>25880
Might want to consider switching or mirror on Nekoweb. Supposedly it is better than Neocities outside of being less established community wise.

What's the difference

>>25883
meant to quote >>25882

>>25883
Nekoweb I heard has more functionality plus it is more otaku oriented.

>>25883
My understanding is that some people have beef with Neocities’ ownership for some reason. It’s also a bit cooler aesthetically for the reasons >>25889 mentioned. I don’t think there’s a huge practical difference.

>>25891
There is a Medium article that compared them I found
https://medium.com/@neonmaxima/neocities-vs-nekoweb-why-i-graduated-59090b1b6a57

>>19614
I use both YT/NND.
For music discovery I use VocaDB.

Seems I was wrong. Grayjay does have a Niconico plugin available, just was harder to find. Videos play with it like Pipepipe does, though seems search does not function properly for it at current moment on Android app.

I prefer Niconico over Youtube cause it usually streams audio at higher bitrates (I've seen up to 256 kbps AAC). Also its Vocaloid recommendations just feel better to me imo, discovered tons of niche shit through it

Though I usually prefer downloading songs and loading them on my Navidrome server. Client side I use Feishin on PC and Tempus on Android (using mTLS for remote access)

>>25781
the entire VocaDB database can be downloaded at https://github.com/blueset/vocaloid-database-dump#vocadb-database-dump (board won't let me post the original link for some reason), dump link seems to be updated monthly

not sure how to go about loading and parsing it though

>>27940
That's cool. Had no idea this exist.

>>27940
It's not monthly though, it's more like whenever the admin gets poked. The current song IDs stop at 873000 which was ~2025-11.

>>27945
interesting, the file modification date does show up as April 10 though

>>27974
Removal requests from artists.