can someone recommend western producers with good music and good lyrics? a lot of the western vocaloid stuff (esp anything involving teto) feels too gimmicky for my taste
>>15510 Yeah but you fags gotta stop mentioning us over there, i don't want this site to get filled with secondaries and dramafags posting twitter screencaps like it happened to /jp/
>>15514 I had to go back while the site was down and people were discussing some dicksword drama involving some guys doing le epic funny troll, kek. Glad to have you guys back.
>>15513 can't have an honest discussion without some edginess some topics feel like you just couldn't discuss on this site and would be disregarded as trolling or whatever, even if it was an honest but unpopular opinion
>>15548 True. But i still think discussing Twitter user #2038's irrelevant opinion on something instead of actually talking about music or recent happenings is dumb.
>>15553 The vast majority of the time the edginess is completely unneccessary though and it just comes off as disrespectful or trolling, it's just that the site culture fosters this sort of behaviour. And I'm pretty sure the general thread catches a bunch of randoms from /jp/ who barely know anything about Vocaloid but are super sure of the views they just made on a whim.
Not that it's all bad, I browse it too sometimes and it's for sure preferable to Twitter
>>15560 and if a mod arbitrarily decides it's derailment or /pol/ territory when that wasn't the poster's intention? options are either risk getting banned for voicing opinions or just withhold them
>>15563 we might have different definitions of what edginess is because I don't think there's anything disrespectful in itself
I recently realized that every loid has a dedicate fanbase. Even the most generic loid people would normally not care about, like Tonio, has at least one very dedicate fan. Mirai Komachi has fans. Every loid has fans.
>>15563 Thanks. Im not able to check right now but i hope the other mcdonalds promos have been archived as well. I'd like to hear the shaka shaka ni shiteageru one again but they nuked it off their socials.
>>15568 IDK if you're traveling alone or not, when I was on a long roadtrip with friends who know nothing about Vocaloid except that Miku and Teto exist they really liked World is Mine and the Anamanaguchi Miku song
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>>15579 I think you'll be happy to know that every ban on the site so far has either been spam or a joke ban
But anyway take complaints to >>>/meta/, this ain't the board for it
>>15587 My opinion (which might be unpopular here) is actually that songs like Birdbrain are the most relatable to someone who isn't into vocal synths. I think it being english, catchy and using a newer, clearer voicebank makes it more appealing right off the bat. But the trip happened before Birdbrain was even made so I didn't show it.
>>15591 No you're completely right. A lot of newgens in fact have become Vocaloid fans because of a lot of the recent EN songs. But I'd say oldgen songs are equally accessible.
>>15568 Alterour Setsuna Pop always hits. its my favorite siinamota album. bohyou by nashimoto ui is also a great time killer. its fun to see the differences between the original songs and remastered versions.
>>15461 hakaine maiko and hxvoc [spoiler]unarana too i have to heavily agree with you on unarana[/spoiler] >>15494 seconded [spoiler]imagine shota zundamon and oji-san frimomen[/spoiler] >>15521 thank you ^_^
>>15654 No, her V2 will always be my favorite but I love her SV design too. I think her SV design would be my favorite if they kept her outfit blue and white instead of blue and pink.
>>15510 Yeah I went to /jp/ while 39chan was down but the generals there are just boring to me. Everyone seems to care more about random Xitter drama no.2892 than the music or the 'loids themselves. That being said though I do appreciate IAbro and the random dude who posts about 10 Teto songs per thread even if I dislike Teto.
>>15648 Being a Lilyfag is suffering. IA is at least still remembered, still used (to some extent) and she had many popular songs. But Lily... the modern Vocaloid fan only knows her from those Gumi yuri memes, and the old Vocaloid fans probably forgot she exists, the only producer who used her consistently (niki) moved on from her, and i can't think of a single song using Lily that ever became popular... maybe Wave...
>>15684 I just love how much she makes Twitter seethe. She's not even the most problematic (and I hate using that word) voice provider. Yohio's been schizoposting racist shit on Twitter but Ui gets all the hate for singing a song she didn't even write. Lmao.
>>15720 I pointed this out to people and the response is always "um ahksually Yohio's voice bank is dead and he's not making money with it," when that's not how most voicebanks work, and also doesn't justify the harassment of Ui or the people using her voicebank. Hallo Cel has earned my respect by not only making a great song but standing his ground when he's only 19 and I know I would have crumpled under the stress in his shoes.
>>15722 Yohio literally got killed by Vocatone I think. I read somewhere he was going to get a new voicebank for Maghni but he pulled a Kanye West and ended up getting blacklisted from vsynths in general.
>>15723 That's true, yeah. >>15724 Me too. I use primarily voicebanks I bought (I have 15 legal Vocaloids, I got 3 more since I last posted my physicals, a total of 8 are physical) but I pirated his because I really love him and unfortunately switched only to physical banks after getting screwed out of my Bruno code. Plus he was discontinued. I will gladly buy digitals for SynthV though.
>>15716 >yellow Vocaloid Bro they hardly even know about Neru outside of Zako (and remember how much they hate that song?). I think you mean Rin and Len.
>>15759 I mean the Triple Baka squad blew up around 2024 and its one of the reasons more Neru songs are showing up recently. The kagamines have not been too relevant these past few years sadly.
>>15773 >30s songs They are edging us so bad. Hopefully they won't blue ball us at the end. >>15783 Google AI says >"Planetes" is derived from the Ancient Greek word *planētēs*, meaning "wanderer" or "wandering star". Maybe because they're wanderers of Planet ARIA, since they came to earth as aliens.
I’ve seen some people saying that the new Melt remix uses Miku RVC and I can kind of see it? Maybe I’m just not used to hearing amazing tuning but who knows
>>15853 New anime film that just came out. The music was made by known producers like Kz and Ryo, and naturally features Miku. Apparently the animation is pretty good also. I haven't watched it myself (yet) but I read a lot of good things about it.
>>15716 >>15759 The Kagamines were still popular pre-2023 but I'd argue Neru has become more relevant than them because of Mesmerizer. Miku + Teto lead to "the yellow one that wasn't in Mesmerizer" memes which in turn lead to the "Triple Baka squad" making a return. One of the biggest songs right now is a Miku/Teto/Neru song btw.
Basically, both the Western fandom and the Japanese fandom memed her back into relevancy.
>>15860 If you're reading vocatwt posts, they do this a lot and they're usually pretty unreliable. When the first Teto SV clip came out they guessed every single engine except synthv.
>>15903 As much as i like watching the world burn i hope this doesn't turn into another 23.exe case where another producer just disappears without a trace for eternity
>>15918 He used to make stuff with IA. I discovered him from Forward, Forward or whatever that song with IA/Miku was called. It was before the low poly Miku stuff.
>>15931 I'm willing to bet that he's doing the same thing Hachi did with Donut Hole. He'll release a bunch of remixes then quit again. PinocchioP and Deco are all we have left from that era.
If Ui has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Ui has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Ui has only one fan then that is me. If Ui has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Ui, then I am against the world.
>>15981 Agreed. She looks different than before but not worse. I think the new design is great for drawing her in different outfits, like the one in Silly Terror, because the large hair from the old one could be difficult to fit. I've checked /jp/ though and they super dislike the new design over there.
>>15987 I saw some Japanese fans say that Teto going mainstream was upsetting because the 2ch traits were completely wiped in favor of a more marketable image
>>15981 I'd very much prefer it not stay, as I've said over there. One post pointed out that she has muted colors and I've only just realized that. No wonder she didn't really catch my eye the moment I saw her, outside of losing her iconic long hair. When you have them side by side like this, she may as well be a different character. I didn't like CeVIO IA AI that much but I daresay I prefer that over this. If she wasn't IA, then sure, she's not that bad. >>15983 I am one of them, then. I guess the other guy is just samefagging, but it is hard to believe the other IAbro would do that.
>>16007 I preferred the gothy look v3 flower had, but who am I to say? I'm not a big flower fan. >>16009 I know I'm not the only one who thinks it is a downgrade. There is a sizeable group saying so in all the places I looked at. Either way, it is controversial. Only time will tell if it will stick or not.
>>16029 I don't think he has given up yet since he made a 2025 remix, but I wish modern medical science can do something about it. Beethoven made music while he was deaf since he felt the vibrations on his piano, but since music is digital nowadays that technique is probably not possible. However, if anyone could pull it off, it's Neru. I hope he doesn't give up.
>>16076 There was a theory floating around that Mesmerizer was a critique on that type of content so seeing it become exactly what it was mocking is hilarious
Does anyone have intel on why mikudb.moe is picky with their uploads? I submitted a few album rips a couple years ago and they never got posted. It's kind of disappointing since one of them was a comiket exclusive that has never been sold digitally and I'd like to see it backed up somewhere.
>>16128 Previous owner said it was because of the stigma surrounding imageboard sites if I'm not mistaken. But honestly i would much rather have Q&A with people like Hioka and Canon who not only have experience with chan culture but also have created two successful voicebanks than a western producer who'll probably think we're racist homophobes from hell or whatever imageboard users get stereotyped as these days.
>>16135 It literally is tamer than Twitter but that was the idea from day one I believe. And aside from faggot, every other slur gets filtered to a Japanese word like tomodachi.
>>16138 I liked the r-906 demo, but enjoyed the newer one less, though it's still okay. The voice is alright, I'll have to hear more songs to make my mind up. I think the new design is about on par with the old one, maybe they could've went easy on the strange socks.
Overall an improvement so far I think but this probably isn't my finalized opinion
>>16138 Her worst design yet, even the one off ones for her concerts are better. Her voice is good so far, much better than her CeVIO, but I will need to hear her used in more songs before I can say anything more.
>>16167 On the bright side, because she's easy to tell apart from IA V3, we can get some real kino like with the new demo. Every time she contrasts with her past self, it was great.
>>16184 I don't know if he did use RVC but you could get away with the same thing without major controversy by just using automatic running in SV and then converting the tuned SVP to a VSQ(X).
>>16170 Freaky but oddly cute Rei >>16174 Don't worry about it, I'm also biased because of the fact that IA V6 is almost the exact opposite to her V3, with the short hair, greyness, mirrored pose, etc. I actually saw some people claim that was the point but who knows. >>16175 I keep forgetting that these two are the same characters. I can imagine how Rionbros might feel disappointed over this one. >>16176 IA would like to be friends with her even if she wasn't going to be a vocaloid, I'm sure.
>>16193 >spoiler I wouldn't be surprised if they're reacting to V4 Flower's redesign popularity compared to V3. But IA doesn't have the tomboy vibe Flower does so it kinda feels out out of place.
>>16201 The only people big enough that could start a trend are shikakuzakana, Kasamura Touta, r-906 (who I'm pretty sure only uses her if commissioned), and of course, Orangestar (who rarely posts anything nowadays). So basically only 2 people. What I'm hoping is for someone really big to adopt her, because otherwise she'll continue to bleed fans until only her diehard fans are left, which is not a lot.
>>16220 I think they commissioned about 30 songs with her so it's only a matter of time before you start seeing them >Orangestar Wasn't this guy a scientologist?
>>16280 >>16288 I don't want to be a pessimist, but I feel like she's not going to do well. Historically, all of her voicebanks did not make any change to her downwards trend. Her current relevance was all thanks to her original voicebank, and with nothing sustaining it, it will erode away. I'm just glad she had her chance back then. >>16287 It's kind of boring. It loops around and there's no difference between left and right I think. https://vocaroo.com/18XXOfeMUjpm [Embed]
>>16344 I think the GUMI one might've been coordinated by members of the WVF like Mono and Flavor Foley though considering everybody knows eachother there.
>>16344 GUMI has a much more presence in western community also a bunch of producers were coincidentally gonna release a song with GUMI so they just coordinated to release everything in one week
>>16368 Of all the reasons to call someone a tourist/newgen/etc i think that was really stupid lol. There's nothing wrong with drawing your loids' eyes to match their hair color. There's MMD models of Rin/Len with yellowish green eyes dating back to like 2011.
