>>13
ngl I think its kinda funny that megpoid has a vsynth and vocaloid6 but miku only has piapro studio now, like, why cant she just be in both.

>>68
But she's getting a V6 voicebank

>>69
wait really????? omg I'm so happy ;;;;

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I don't see anyone talking about this (probably cause it's V6) but two new voicebanks were announced around September. Tsuina-chan who was previously on SynthV and Ci-chan based on Ci the Jiangshi, a virtual youtuber.

Vocaloid 6 is a product that just like its predecessor V5 didn't need to exist. Voicebanks sounding terrible is just one of the many problems with it. It's expensive compared to its competitors which offer a better, higher quality result. It also has compatibility issues with V1/V2, lacks features present in previous versions and there's been little to no marketing for it or its voicebanks. Even with Miku releasing next year I don't think V6 will have its redemption arc.

>>119
That being said, the best voicebank so far on V6 is Po-uta and that's just because his voice is based off an already distorted voice (its a dude with a voice changer) so the engine noise feels natural.

>>120
Another Po-uta fan God bless

>>435
he's the only decent sounding v6 so far…

the new update to v6 adds cross synthesis and tunelab style pitch editing. maybe v6 is back for real this time.

6.5.0 update seems promising, I REALLY hope that Yamaha either hired or is going to steal the TuneLab devs' ideas since Vocaloid support for TuneLab is gone now (fuck the snitch)
Since there are V6 banks with appends (Una V6 and Megpoid Solid, even if Solid sounds identical) I was hoping XSY would or will be added to V6+ banks in the future but Yamaha will probably still be being themselves lol. (Also why are singing styles/vocal modes gone in vx_beta 3.0 wtf!)

Praying Yamaha continues to listen to the fans and vx_beta wasn't just like
a temporary thing, it took the 20 years to do so though so..

Realistically, could Vocaloid as a brand stop existing following V6's failure? Both the software and the voicebanks flopped insanely hard to the point where barely anyone cares about V6 updates/new releases anymore, and there's been plenty since its debut!.

>>1084
If it didn't after V5 I doubt it, plus you have to remember Miku V6 will be a thing which will probably revive interest + WhiteCUL's V6 crowdfund was successful (even more than ROSA's SV, which didn't even get fully funded iirc,) which shows the Japanese fandom might still care.

Hopefully vx_beta will take Vocaloid's place once Vocaloid fully dies (I wonder why Yamaha isn't pushing it more considering how much praise it got?) I agree with you that I can't really see VOCALOID9 happening if Yamaha continues on this path.

I wonder if Miku V6 alone is going to be enough to keep Vocaloid afloat, honestly it might be. GUMI V6 was also a thing prior to GUMI SV as well so that also probably got a few sales.

>>1085
I think V5 and V6 should've never happened in the way they did. They should've waited a bit longer before discontinuing V4 and released V5 during the early 2020's with AI already built in, but I don't think they could've predicted SynthV Studio so I guess I can't fully blame them.

I like to think Po-uta, Koto and Fuiro would've been popular had they released around the V3/V4 era

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how i wish she was on a different engine

>>1196
I’ve heard through the grapevine (several vocal synth developers’ tweets) that SynthV’s development fees are sky high, almost 5x as much as Vocaloid’s (I’m pretty sure this is why Engloid and Chinaloid companies have always struggled, along with hearing Yamaha raised the dev fees in V5 which might’ve contributed to why many Japanese companies left then.) and that kind of explains why most of the banks are first-party.

Along with the fact that to my knowledge KuruKuruSuuzi is just one person, but even then small companies like Zan-Shin (who’s SynthV crowdfund literally failed,) and Eclipsed Sounds still had to rely on crowdfunds.

Maybe she could get a Voisona one day? Though we don’t know how expensive their dev fees are and I feel Gekikaze are an outlier that Yamaha might’ve commissioned themselves due to their popularity instead of KKS being able to fund them themselves like most Vocaloid companies do, especially because it’s confirmed Yamaha also commissioned Shiki Rowen. (Now I suspect Yamaha commissioned/approached Porter for Po-uta as well, considering how Porter himself hasn’t acknowledged Po-uta’s existance post-Humansongs despite being a massive weeb himself.)

>>1242
>Shiki Rowen
His name is Diaperfur Jones

>>1242
So V6 Ritsu is more possible than SV Ritsu… hmm…

IA V6 sounds good, vocatwt needs to shut the fuck up

>>1246
Agree, she’s also in alpha + the producer could’ve purposely tuned her that way
I really wish Yamaha did “raw” a capella demos in addition to tuned ones, the fandom says they only want tuned demos but that’d be false advertising and how we got that one fake ass SeeU demo (as much as I love her)

>>1246
Vocatwt can suck my entire cock and balls. They're already calling IA V6 another 'IA flop' and the thing's not even finished yet. I genuinely think it's on par with any Cevio voicebank.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uZdnPgDaOpk

>>1253
The fandom is really harsh towards any release that isn't SynthV and I have no idea why. Sure V6 sounds like shit sometimes (even then vx_beta exists, it's free and compatible with all V6 banks,) but literally what's wrong with something like Voisona? I remember during WhiteCUL's crowdfund everyone was harassing them for not doing SynthV even though they had an actual reason (Aside from SV development possibly being really expensive, ROSA's SynthV crowdfund flopped despite the fact Zan-Shin went out of their way to do it as a favor for our side of the fandom, the same people begging every vocal to join SynthV refused to help Rosa get there. God forbid a Japanese company market to the people who actually keep their company a float!)

The fact Miku came back, IA came back, Both Una and Gumi got updates prior to SV (and multiple people suspect that Gumi SV was a social experiment because Internet was originally wasn't very keen on hyperrealistic vocals), Tsuina got ported, and WhiteCUL joined V6 makes me think VOCALOID isn't even as despised over there as it is here in the first place. (Although the Chinese fandom disliked V5 iirc.)

>>1254
Western fans of anything in general have little respect for the things they claim to love. Also I don't see JP people care much for V6, that'll probably change once Miku is out but it's weird that I haven't seen many V6 songs. There was a galaco one i saw not long ago but i think it was a demo, there was also a Koto one i liked which released before her SV.

If DECO's recent songs really are V6 Miku then I guess those count too.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Rq6dVpEUS4

At first I doubted the "IA V6 is on par with Cevio" thing, but her quality absolutely is on par with vidrel so I don't see what the problem is. Especially when she's still in alpha, there's tons of opportunity for growth

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_95eFs4sHZs

>>1255
>I haven't seen many V6 songs.
Even then it makes 0 sense that they'd keep developing for a failing product that makes no money especially considering how expensive developing *any* commercial vsynth is. The Vocaloid devkit alone has been confirmed to be $10k, then there's other expenses on top of that, that'd be literal money down the drain.

Also, not all Vocaloid and vocal synth users are part of the fandom, tons of people probably regularly upload videos without the character's name or image attached (like vidrel, which uses Oliver and has 10 million views, with barely any comments noticing the vocal is Oliver (I saw none) and also according to the comments got into a super popular game, Geometry Dash) that the fandom never sees due to those reasons, along those who use vocal synths for things like a cheaper alternative to session singers or reference tracks for human music which aren't supposed to ever see the public anyway.

I also don't doubt that there are tons of unpopular songs using it, and that once Miku V6 is here it'll pick up steam. V5 has over 1k videos on NicoNico despite how panned it was and V6 is only 3 years old.

>>1257
A guy from a popular band in my country used V6 AKITO w/ Vocalochanger for a cover of a folk song kek

Maybe… maybe OP is right… maybe…

>>1254
I think everyone disliked V5 though. As an editor i think it's fine, maybe even better than V4. But it's just lacking in everything else. The only noteworthy voicebanks on it were the incest sisters and Sora.

>>1256
That's not a bad thing imo. I would say Cevio is perfectly balanced, they use AI for the voicebanks but it still sounds pretty robotic which gives it some charm. If V6 ends up being Cevio 2.0 i wouldn't be mad.

>>1281
Why does Vocaloid still exist then? I could’ve sworn I read somewhere once that Vocaloid isn’t even profitable for Yamaha. It’s flopping, it’s failing, it makes no money, even the fandom surrounding it despises it, so why haven’t they pulled the plug yet? You can’t say greed because it’s not even making them money in the first place. Why did they have that giant 20th anniversary celebration and why were producers willing to participate in it?

I take back every negative thing I've said about V6

I'm manifesting a V6 for Aoki Lapis. Screencap this post.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o14pj9CsNVY

V6 is great in the right hands

Crypton where the fuck is Miku V6, we have Miku NT version 2 so where the hell is V6 miku

>>2406
In the kitchen still

This is from March but it seems V6 Miku is almost finished

https://x.com/vocaloid_yamaha/status/1904126053989462140 [Embed]

Show the video in this Twitter/X post

8 months later and still no Miku V6

>>4379
Crypton are trying to perfect it because they know that if it sounds slightly bad they'll have an army of twitter losers attacking them

My prediction is that Miku AI will sound a bit like Kafu did on Cevio. It uses AI but not realistic like Teto SV.

>>4384
They already do and it's not even out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's not happening is it

>>4384
That one Chinese guy who regularly threatens Wat’s life..lol….

>>4675
It's gonna happen but the real question is who will come out first, Miku V6 or Toriko AI?

>Chinese guy who regularly threatens Wat’s life
i require context

>>4699
>>4782
I'd also like context???

>>5001
>>5001
theres a guy who often replies to wat's tweets with vile harassment. really aggressive fan

>>5031
I'm not new but i don't get involved in the fandom side of things, who's wat? producer?

Chuyin Weilai bros.......

>>5041
He’s a crypton guy involved in voicebank production. He shares dev updates sometimes.

So Miku v6 never ever?

>>5672
I asked Nostradamus, he said it's not happening

>>1196
A DiffSinger would've been fine honestly

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"Join us Miku V6"

>>7202
why did you put kafu there

>>7203
It's KAFU SV, her voicebank was cancelled after KAF heard it and thought it sounded identical to her voice

>>7202
Now add UNI to the image

>>7996
But the joke is that all of those voicebanks were cancelled and Uni SV was never cancelled she was just discontinued

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>>7202
Something was missing

>>8001
ALYS eventually released on alter/ego tho? plus now she's open source isn't she?

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V6bros are we back?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BKny3_vCNgI [Embed]

>>8657
I'm erect

watch it be those Rin and Len NT voicebanks that leaked kek

>>8657
It's absolutely going to be V6. There's just no way it isn't.

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>>8657
THEY'RE LIVE

>>8657
It’s fucking live now??

here we go lads

>>8663
Yes

imagine if its miku synthv

Nothing ever happens

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tiwKaoZ-4Kg

>>8659
NOTHING
EVER
HAPPENS

>>8668
>it's actually NT
OH NO NO NO NO NO

miku never happens

>>8668
You're shitting me

THEY SAID AI

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>>8668
Len becomes more of a Toblerone with each new character art

They said AI you guys, there's still hope

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HOLY SHIT

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>>8674
triangle

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IT'S REAL
<IT'S REAL
IT'S REAL
<IT'S REAL
IT'S REAL
<IT'S REAL

>>8676
>Release month: First half of 2026
<Wait another 6 months

>>8678
Will they release a demo at the very least?

miku v6 is real never kill yourself

>>8677
Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs overlaid on this but all the tiers read Kagamine Len

>>8679
>Delayed

Please release a freakin audio clip of her crypton my dudes.

okay but what does she sound like

SHE SOUNDS SO GOOD BROS

She sounds pretty good

she doesn't sound too bad

>>8657
Mitchie M-san... I don't know how to tell you this...

Audio clip sounded good. Hoping for a nice whisper/breathy capability and deece English.

Shobon and Meaty in chat

>>8691
hey

sounds okay i guess

To me it sounds more like modern DECO than Mitchie M. Maybe he really was using V6 all this time.

her pronunciation is adorable actually

What does she look like?

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>>8696

If i had to guess her design will look near identical to PJSK Miku considering the new NT Rin/Len voicebanks do too. I wouldn't hold my breath for detailed V3-like art.

>>8698
This.
She's gonna look like SP Miku.

>>8698
shame but i guess thats how it is now

>>8698
These new Kagamine voicebanks don't have "Sekai art style" they have V3 art style. I like it.

>>8691
It's moth we want to collaborate with him not Meaty

i'm nt's biggest hater and thought these nts sounded very good

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Her bow is shaped like angel wings

>>8704
i like the zippers

>>8704
Rin chan my angel

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>>8677
>>8704
Very cute honestly even if I am attached to the orange leaf bow silhouette

>>8698
i just need a new miku in my life ill take ANYTHING aaaaa

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>>8752
Here's your Miku V6

>>8753
hi im miku daiyo leukemia aint nothing to fuck with

I don’t think it was mentioned but it’s not just the sample they showed us. While Miku V6 was delayed, they mentioned in the presentation they’re supposed to be releasing a beta version for existing Miku owners this year so we will be able to tinker with her a bit.

>>9027
It was mentioned here >>8678 though the wording is vague

>>9036
Not sure I’d say it’s vague. Seems pretty clear to me.

>>8753
oh my gosh shes bald! shes bald and shes torturing people who have hair

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Yamaha posted this cryptic video (which seems to be a promo for their voicebank ASA)

https://x.com/vocaloid_yamaha/status/1978747745318916504 [Embed]

Show the video in this Twitter/X post

>>10528
It's just a new voicebank they're promoting and i highly doubt its gonna sound robotic or artificial to the same extent as Defoko or Rei. Not sure what the hype's all about. If it means more songs with wholoids instead of Miku or Teto I'm all for it though.

>>10528
This is pretty cool, off the top of my head I can't think of any voicebank that was revealed with a whole trailer like this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gt-FIOgULQM

MIKU V6 DEMO IS OUT
I REPEAT
MIKU V6 DEMO IS OUT

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>>10833
>mfw big things actually happened

every time nothing happens it just means something huge will happen soon

>>10833
sounds good!

It sounds no different than RVC trained on Miku V2 tbh

>>10841
Fine with me. Her vowel sounds don’t sound as good as pre-AI Vocaloid though. I wonder if her VA’s voice has changed so that it’s difficult to get new samples or something.

>On November 9th (Sun), we will be holding the "Get Ready for Hatsune Miku V6 ~VOCALOID6 Introduction Talk Event for Piapro Studio Users"!
>We'll be answering questions such as: What kind of preparations are needed to use the Hatsune Miku V6 Early Access version? Please feel free to join us.

https://x.com/vocaloid_yamaha/status/1986396630938230829 [Embed]

Show the video in this Twitter/X post

When are they revealing the new design? I know it probably wont live up to my expectations (V2 will always be THE Miku design) but I wanna see V6.

>>11103
Likely when the vb itself comes out like they did with the NT Kagamines. All I hope is KEI does the design for V6 but that's pure copium, especially considering Ixima has been the artist for the cryptonloids since the V3 era I think.

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>>13
I owe V6 an apology. It had a rough start but with GekiKaze and the Miku and Rei voicebank announcements it feels like we're back in the V3 era.

>>11467
Needs more wholoids that no one will ever use for it to match the V3 era. We only have Fuiro, Po-uta, ZOLA and the random vtubers, the rest are all well established 'loids that made their way to V6.

>>11506
we got otobe sapphire a few days ago

I know that hardcore autists like us get excited for new V6's but do Japanese producers care about it at all? I never see any V6 originals except when they're demos

>>11709
a lot of japanese producers use it already, its just that there havent been any popular songs using it

>>11709
They certainly do care about TT. And I expect the new Rei voicebank to boost interest in the engine.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WPXDz834NEo

One of Nurse Robot's best songs uses V6

>>11717
I still don't know what a Head Momi is

Next UTAU to make it to V6 will be Poyoroid

>>7202
That did not age well. Fortunately.

>>10528
Whatever happened to this

>>11741
Currently a mobile Vocaloid exclusive vb pretty much

>>11749
>mobile
a fate worse than death

>>10850
it's the engine noise. V6 sounds like ass

>>11766
Cevio sounds worse

>>11767
i respectfully disagree nowadays. i mean cevio creative studio and vocaloid 6 are about the same quality, both are ass. but nowadays cevio sounds actually good

>>11768
the cevio im familiar with is the one that had kafu sounding like a lung cancer patient. not sure if they've improved it since.

>>11769
kafu's still mid iirc but cevio has good voicebanks like futaba minato (my favorite wholoid, who can tell?) and zundamon

>>11774
My favorite Zundamon voicebank is the one Namigroove uses

>>11768
>>11766
You gotta give them credit they're the at least making the most out of the shitty engine noise by making robotic sounding 'loids like Rei and Miku.

It's also the only engine (besides UTAU) that still sounds robotic despite using AI

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>>11783
>tfw we're never getting a realistic miku bank again

>>11785
I'm fine with this tbh. A realistic Miku is just a Saki Fujita voicebank.

>>11786
Saki Fujita herself can't even do the "Miku voice". It's the engine that makes her sound the way she does.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DT-cRjLxeXs

>>11787
I wish they could preserve the V2 sound at least. The new banks have never felt quite the same.

>>11789
i don't think the sound of V2 was even intentional but it really does feel like the definitive miku voicebank.

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She's next

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RoA1IfEwid0

>>11801
best CV voicebank in all existence

>>11835
Part of me wants her to receive a new voicebank and get popular but at the same time I don't want her to gain annoying fans like Rei and Teto

>>11801
If we lived in a perfect world maybe, but we don't

>>11836
This is why fandom is best enjoyed on anonymous forums and with a small group of friends

>>11846
You say that like Teto fans aren't as annoying on 4chan as well

>>11836
I doubt they know who Kakoi is in the first place.

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Reminder that Miku V6 will come out around January-April next year

>>11854
it's over

>>11859
No

>>11847
I don't believe the intentionally annoying posters are actually Teto fans, or even regular 4chan users

>>11863
No clue if they still post or not but I basically stop going to most threads because the most blatant ESL samefag kept shitting it up, either a really dedicated shitposter or some sort of raid.

>>11867
Tetofag hasn't been an issue in a long while but they do have an annoying ESL namefag in the recent thread

>>11868
Namefagging is really a fall from grace for the thread. Can’t recall a time between 2016 and 2024 that anyone had a name.

>>11878
Jaypee hasn't been good in ages tbh. Most of the old users moved to Kissu and Wapchan for the Touhou stuff and those from the Vocaloid gens moved here.

>>11880
Hate to say it, but mods didn’t make /vt/ fast enough. Things went sharply downhill when that stuff flooded the board, and by the time it was finally banned, damage was done permanently.

>>11882
It's not fully banned. Hololive threads still hit bump limit and post-hack they've been having bigger problems than just vtuber threads. They're letting the board rot.

>>11801
My fear with Kakoi getting a new VB is that they will change the design. It's already perfect and I cannot imagine her with a different one.

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post yfw they announce a returning vocal for v6 and it's piko

>>11897
I would be gagged

Who owns Piko again? Sony?
I could see them trying something now that Vocaloid is popular again but if they do I doubt it's gonna be a new Piko vb

>>11900
Piko (the person) left Sony an entire decade ago and has never posted about Utatane Piko since

>>11903
It's Pikover

What I hope for V6 is that we get more Nurse Robot / Rei duet songs. Maybe with Defoko or Momo because why the hell not.

things are happening

https://x.com/IA_Official_/status/1996897349893870076 [Embed]

Show the video in this Twitter/X post

>>12058
Didn't they announce this ages ago?

>>11903
aw why

V6 played the long game huh? I remember everybody considered it a failure when it came out, now there's a ton of new voicebanks coming out for it. It almost feels like V3 all over again.

>>12104
V6 itself was never bad it just had no voicebanks. No one cares for Generic Vtuber No. 4294 or those silhouette voicebanks.

>>12116
the software IS kinda shit in terms of UI though

>>12121
It's alright. If you've messed around with Tunelab before it's essentially the same thing.

>>11726
It means to rub someone's head i think

2026 v6 wishlists, post em nooww

>>12402
>Macne Nana
>Utatane Piko
>Lily
>Kasane Teto
>Namine Ritsu
Sonika
Am I delusional? Yes

what if there's no real miku v6 design
what if the reason she's a silhouette is because the design is up to our interpretation

>>12460
she was the friends we made along the way

It's cool reading the earlier posts in this thread from 2024 and seeing how V6 used to be hated and now its up there with the major synths like SV for most people.

V6's launch reminds me of the Playstation 3 launch in the 2000's. A massive failure at the time but over time they kept polishing it until people started liking it.

>>12469
in retrospective we were a bit harsh on vocaloid 6 but considering it launched with the "silhouetteloids" (that no one cares about) and a couple low quality versions of voicebanks that were already on synthv in much better quality it's easy to see why people thought it was a failure. i'm pretty sure a couple essential features were missing from the editor as well. but over time they've added all those things back and the cevio quality voices have grown on a lot of people. especially when you consider that yamaha probably isn't aiming for realism, just smoother voices.

>>12471
shiki rowen also definitely did not help its situation lol

>>12472
I was there for both V6's launch and the Rowen controversy and yeah it was a disaster. I remember that for a long time people just didn't care about V6 or any of the voicebanks released on it.
That seems to have changed with Galaco.

I'm glad v6 is in a better spot now. A lot of producers still don't use it tho.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nT9oF1uJask

It feels like GekiKaze have been the most relevant V6 banks so far, and even then, they haven't done as well as HimeMiko.
Maybe Miku V6 will be different?

>>12640
I'd argue TT is more relevant

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dFNh-Ibxt-Y

>>12642
TT is starting to get good songs on Vocaloid like vidrel, but her usual producers seem to be sticking with Voicevox for AI, so I'm not sure how much of her popularity will end up on V6 specifically.

>>12643
the same can probably be said about rei when she releases on v6

>>12640
I dont see anyone talking about miku v6 but maybe the actual release will change that

>>119
This post aged like milk kek

>>12649
The marketing has gotten better for sure but it still has all the other issues anon mentioned. I disagree with it sounding "terrible" though. A lot of the new voicebanks are very good.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2lA5AcOexAM

Miku V6 sounds very robotic. I like it.

If the final V6 voicebank ends up using the silhouette as the official render it'll be hilarious

>>12720
<Miku is a blank canvas
Literally

>>12711
Is it me or she sounds indistinguishable from V2

https://youtube.com/watch?v=q1N6Mt8yT-g

>>12725
Depends on tuning style, this one makes the differences more obvious

>>12725
awww! even deaf people like this anon like vocaloid! we're so inclusive
but seriously though. i don't hear it at all

>>12640
i have not heard a single song with them aside from 32ki's

Is V6 worth purchasing in '26? How many loids are actually multilang?

>>13999
>Is V6 worth purchasing in '26?
yes

>>13999
Yukari got a v6 so I'd say it's well worth it

>>11467
Please don't forget about IA, she's also returning to Vocaloid after 8+ years and she was one of the originals from V3.

>>14015
I could never forget IA.
I wonder if they'll bring back more V3s I'm still waiting for a Lily voicebank.

<Turning your most popular product into a silhouetteloid

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>>15935
Why is Crypton releasing a silhouette? Are they stupid?

>>15937
They predicted V6

>>15937
Wtf I love silhuetteloids now

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>>15937

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At first i couldn't get used to the hair but now it has grown on me. I love IA V6.

>>15964
This isn't right

Your fortune: Bad Luck

>>16909
I can't tell if this is a genius pun or unintentional

>>17001
I didn't even notice when i wrote that

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Hey everybody tonight's the niiiiight

>>19974
It's tomorrow not tonight

>>19976
It's 3/8 in Japan.
3/9 for them is 3/8 for us so we're likely getting it tonight.

Where the fuck is it

>>20152
Why would we need that

>>20152
We don't need V7 when they haven't released any of the important V6 voicebanks they promised but knowing Yamaha they'll probably release it in a few years and the V5 situation will repeat itself

>>20152
I don't want a new engine i want miku v6

The update vocaloid really needs is arpabet phonemes for english. The fuck kind of sound is a {. Engine is fine otherwise

>>20163
I just type the words directly into the 'insert lyrics' box, they coded that shit better than SynthV's lol

>>20165
this, why is it better than sv's?

Did they ever mention when the new design is dropping? it's already "the day"

>>20167
I don't know. The rollout for Miku AI has been a disaster so far.

>>20177
how so

It's almost 3/10 and still no signs of Miku V6...

>>20190
Calm down it's barely noon in Japan

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The summoning ritual begins

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キター！

https://sonicwire.com/product/virtualsinger/special/miku-v6

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IT'S OUT

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3hTUXdGFUrs

Forget the Miku design
CRUSHER IS BACK???

https://youtube.com/watch?v=teA1BPNCAQY

Demo song

Miku finally has a good sounding English voicebank

>>20192
A ritual so powerful it not only summoned Miku V6 but also brought CrusherP back from the dead

not a fan of the design honestly

>>20197
>>20196
now shes the best sounding v6 voicebank (which i guess was to be expected)

Your fortune: Mikudayooo-

I like the design especially the halftone textures

>>20193
>>20194
>>20195
You guys are fast what the fuck. Also the design is nice, i'm glad they brought back the grey shirt. I'm sick of white shirt Miku.

>Design by LAM
>Demo by Crusher
>Her english doesn't sound like nails on a chalkboard now
Holy fuuuuck

>>20202
>they made her vest grey again
thank god

Grey vest is back lads

I’m tempted to get her at the promo upgrade price, especially since I don’t own a Vocaloid editor and the piapro studio vst is kind of jank.

How's Vocaloid6 in >current year?
Have they improved the way their AI voicebanks sound?

>>23013
The sound hasn't changed but they've been recovering from the hell they were in on release. They've made updates to V6 itself and have been bringing voicebanks people actually want into the engine. With Miku and those fan-ding vocals I see a bright future for V6.

>>23013
It's cheaper than SynthV and still easy to use like its predecessors so yes its worth it. Voicebank quality is still CeVIO tier but thats fine.

>>13
How is this thread 2 years old if 39chan itself turns 2 this year?

>>23044
Wait it is? I thought SynthV used to be the cheaper option a few years ago. Who changed prices or was this just bad info?

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>>23067
>>23044
It is NOT cheaper than SV. V6 is $225 USD while SV2 is still $99 USD

>>23013
I prefer vocaloid 6's sound over Synth V's more realistic approach to sound. Also it has my wife so that's also a big plus

>>23067
Anon might've mixed up the prices, SV has always been cheaper than V6, and better quality too

>>23068
why haven't they made a sv yukari?

>>23093
Vocalomakets hasn’t expressed any interest in it. Their relationship with AHS the last few years also has been interesting. They actually told Vocalomakets to work with Internet co instead because they didn’t want to help make a Vocaloid bank for them.

>>23165
That whole situation confuses me because I always thought Yukari was supposed to be realistic

>>23172
Who said that

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LtW7p_Zs6IU

>>23173
A lot of people around her release iirc

>>23175
I don't see anything here that mentions she was aimed to be realistic. Bumpy only mentions here that he likes her mature tone in the desc.

And I will add that it's probably not impossible that Yukari will get a SV bank. Her V6 and the Kotonohas V6 were developed by Internet Co. And a little over a year after Una and Gumi's V6 came out their SV banks dropped. It is Yukari's 15th anniversary this year, so it's a possibility that it could be announced then, but I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. V6 is good, you're just convinced engine noise is bad.

If it becomes a reality then you also shouldn't expect AH-Software to distribute. I haven't seen Vocalomakets and AHS work together since the plushies that sold out in 2 minutes.

>>23217
accidentally censored instead of italicizing like dipshit

>>23218
>censored
ITS CALLED A SPOILER

>>23172
She’s intended to be a voice made with producers in mind. However over the years, fans became fans of her character, especially her tts banks. There was Yukari Mu (a vtuber version of her voiced by her vp) but I can’t recall how well received that was, especially since Yukari Mu was retired. That said, despite being pretty much the VP’s default voice there was an appeal that her vocaloid, Voiceroid, and AI voice banks had, that Yukari Mu and even Yukari Rei lacked.

Internet’s unique recording method for her, made her really stand out in this case. Because of that unique method though, I definitely agree it has some drawbacks. You understand what people really liked, but also other aspects of the bank might be a little funky.

>>23217
This pretty much. Any collaborative efforts they made since the V4 voicebanks were limited to merch. A lot of people often forget Yukari Rei wasn’t an AHS bank either.

It’s definitely not impossible. Considering bumpy can still reach out to the company, it is very well possible an SV bank could still happen, I just don’t know how much.

Aside from differing interests in direction, bumpy also has spoken negatively about AHS and spread ill rumours back around the reveal of Maki’s CeVIO Talk and SynthV banks. Kanru is also in charge of the company now as well, which further pushes the heavier SynthV direction they’ve been taking.

Basically it’s still possible but the odds are up in the air

>>23231
WHY ARE WE YELLING
Also you can always just delete a post and try again, I recommend using a separate text editor for that reason. The worst thing that can happen is someone replies to the deleted post instead of the repost, but who cares really.

>>23240
WE'RE YELLING NOW? COOL

>>23233
>Internet’s unique recording method for her
This is news to me. What kind of method was it?

>>23250
They mentioned it in a DTM station article, but pretty much they had her VP listen to renders of her AI Voice talk bank, and then she would essentially try to mimic the sound of Yukari's AI Voice.

So basically, she's doing an impression of her synthesized voice rather than singing as she normally would.

Why does it still feel like no one cares for Vocaloid 6?

>>23791
They just prefer SV

>>23791
I care I just have too many banks lmao

Hopefully I’ll use it more with Miku v6. Gotta wait a week and a half first.

>>23807
List your full collection

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>>23791
I care and I will make people care with her.(eventually)

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but Smoogi's v6 design is better than her original design

>>25764
holy sexo

>>23791
I care but I'm gonna be honest V4 still sounds a lot better. I'm also disappointed thar V6 is entirely AI, I miss sample based voicebanks.

>>25802
I know that Rei is getting a sample based V5 and that V6 still works with pre-V6 sample based voicebanks but idk, I don't think anything will ever come close to the V2 / V3 era of Vocaloid.
I guess in terms of voicebanks being released though we are in a V3 era because V6 has so many wholoids that people only use for covers.

>>25802
Agreed, pre-AI Vocaloid sounds way better in general. The samples are higher quality.

>>25804
If they keep the FAN-ding stuff going then V6 might end up with more voicebanks than V3

>>25830
if they release them in the first place lol

>>25826
At this point, I'm just hoping they'll focus on fixing the sound quality in V7. There's no reason it shouldn't sound better with how rapidly AI technology has progressed.

>>25837
I always thought the bad quality was intentional, cause you know, vocaloid was always seen as robotic

>>25838
It might be, but it's also a product of its time. V6 came out after Kafu and before Teto SV, so the popular AI voicebank sound was still pretty unrealistic.

>>25839
No wonder V6 is on par with Cevio in terms of quality

Funny how these days UTAU sounds as good as Vocaloid did back then and DiffSinger can sound like SynthV if trained properly

>>25840
In fairness to CeVIO, CeVIO AI did improve the sound quality, it’s only the banks that didn’t receive 2.0 updates that still suffer a bit. The difference between 1.0 and 2.0 is literally just the vocoder.

V6 suffers the exact same issue, it needs a new vocoder which ironically already exists but Yamaha just refuses to implement it for some reason. It’s in the omnivocal plug in that comes with Cubase now iirc. Regardless, if we are going to have V6 until next year (which we do), it would be beneficial that they at least consider implementing the new vocoder so V6’s life span becomes reasonably extended.

>>25837
Not happening until possibly 2028 which is the surprising part of that.

>>25843
How do you know that

>>25845
Iori Yuzuru V6 is slated to release early in 2027, while that still leaves half of 2027, when I was talking to a developer at Mirai last year, they seemingly implied a V7 was still a ways off and that the current focus was continuing to bring over certain features from VXB to the main editor. That’s at least what they could tell me, everything else was just “secret”.

>>25850
How do people on this site just casually talk to devs and producers

>>25851
autism and connections

>>25851
I literally just walked up to the Vocaloid booth at Mirai and asked lol

>>23813
Just seeing this, sorry lol

Been meaning to take a new photo of both my shelf and a spread of my boxes. It’s not done yet but I’ve also been working on a little secret page for my collection on my site so I can link and post them in that one collection thread later.^^

>>25842
That’s very interesting about the vocoder. Can’t help but wonder if pirates will just swap a new one in the same way people switched Toriko’s vocoder for a big upgrade.

>>25855
Who knows? They haven’t realized it’s possible to crack SV2 yet last I checked.

>>25860
SV piracy still kinda sucks. Your choices are a dicksword keylogger virus or SV Flat which might or might not be safe (I honestly trust the Ruskis who have experience cracking VSTs more than a bunch of dicksword kids though).

>>25982
As long as DT keeps fighting it, it’s gonna suck. They’ve been the most proactive in fighting it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uCIJPcGoGpU

>>25842
Their AI from 2022 sounds better than V6 lol

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Can somebody confirm if this is true about Koto? Because if they really did use the same V6 samples then holy shit no wonder they released her on a different engine not even a year later.

>>26630
I hope they eventually release a patch for V6 that makes the voicebanks not sound like crap
That or V7, but I don't see either happening anytime soon.

>>26630
lmao

Is it possible to get rid of the engine noise in v6?

>>27329
EQ and Compression or just switch to SV

>>27330
I already use both of those but sometimes you can still kinda hear the engine noise

>>26396
Wasn’t this demo 2019?

I don't expect V7 to be as good as Synth V in terms of realism but i do hope its at least on par with Voisona in quality

Interestingly, it seems some of the V6s use the same dataset as their SV counterparts. Gumi being one of them.

>>27972
Goes to show how strong V6 engine noise is

People keep mentioning v7 as if they're making a v7 right now when they've spent the last like 2 years improving v6 and actually getting voicebanks for it. They're probably going to keep improving v6 for the foreseeable future instead of just making a new vocaloid

>>27987
Hope so

>>27987
Yeah, I don't really see a reason yet why they'd jump engines. They had the chance when they were making the Beta studio thing but turns out it was just a plugin and all V6 owners got it for free. The V4 to V5 jump is probably the dumbest one in history but we still got the Attack Release effects that are new and arguably warrants a new engine. Every jump in version had something new to it and I don't think Yamaha has anything in mind yet for V7.

>>27987
>>27989
In fairness, they could be in early stages but I can’t guarantee anything. After watching the presentation on OmniVocal, which is basically a further developed version of VXB exclusive to Cubase, there’s definitely ideas and concepts I can see them carrying over to future Vocaloid VST functionalities. This is especially now understanding what the purpose was. The biggest challenge for what could be their vision is universal daw compatibility. They have easy access to Cubase code and API to develop the features and integration they want, but not other daws.

I don’t know when we could see this version but considering we have V6 developments up until early next year, we won’t see it until late 2027 or 2028 at the earliest right now. That being said, I think everyone agrees that updating V6 and reducing the noise will do a lot in terms of longevity.

>>27994
>updating V6 and reducing the noise
That's more or less why CeVIO and SynthV have V2s now. I don't see any signs of Yamaha doing it (for V6 or V7 or whatever), but I'd buy it right away if they did.

I personally don't mind V6 sticking around for a little longer, especially if they're willing to improve it, which they are. Compare any of the older voicebanks to the new ones and you'll notice they're lot less noisy. So far I think Miko is their best in that regard.

>>28001
Knowing Miko is basically some of the objectively best on VOCALOID6 right now is making me kinda excited. Even as the cutest VIPPER she never really got time in the limelight but this could kinda be her chance. I'm rooting for her.

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>>28007
Yep, i feel the same way. Love what they're doing with Miko V6. She's so high quality and given her popularity as a Voicevox i could see people making a lot of covers and originals with her.

>>28009
It's still funny to me that instead of getting Ritsu on V6 we got a derivative of him

>>27998
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in the todo list considering it’s one of the biggest complaints. That and more languages, though I’d hope we have some native banks if they launch new ones.

>>27998
Wait when did Cevio get an upgrade?

>>28025
A few years back. Not all the voices got updates but pretty much anyone in VoiSona got them.

>>28007
I'd argue Miku V6 is where they went "fuck it we gotta make this sound good" and it shows. It's one of the best sounding Miku voicebanks in years. Miko too sounds very great and I'm looking forward to whatever they do next.

What is the current best v6? as in the least noisy one and preferably with XLS support

Years later, what does /leek/ think of V6?. Because the reception in 2024 was pretty negative as you can tell from the older posts.

>>30886
Most default banks suck, Sakura and Shion are really good. They went back and 'fixed' certain older V6 banks, which is better than letting them rot but I'd prefer they'd have released like that. Galaco Black is actually pretty decent. The pitchbending tools that let you pitchbend on the note is a really cool thing, even if I haven't used it because ErdK went down and I'm a V4 enjoyer. Overall I'd say it's better than V5.

I was one of those people that hated V6 on launch but it has grown on me over the years and it has Nurse Robot's best voicebank

>>30886
It's okay
It has a good lineup of vocals, which matches the V3 era in terms of quantity
Engine is noisy but has gotten better with time

>>30899
Same quantity, same varying quality

>>28010
Part of me thinks this will happen by the end of the year if not 2027

>>30886
It had a rough launch, but it recovered between late 2025 and early 2026
I still would not use it but its not as bad as it once was

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When are we getting Kogas... err,, Hau-chan, on V6?

>>33042
December, just in time for christmas

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>>33042
recently discovered that she was on VOICEVOX first

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>10 songs on VocaDB
use her

>>34271
Man, V6 really is not popular, is it?
Admittedly i stopped paying as much attention to the engine but i wonder how many voicebanks are falling through the cracks just because theyre on V6... Hibiki Koto deserves better too. : (

>>34272
Koto is on SV, she's just not a popular voicebank in general

>>34272
Nurse Robo seems to be the biggest V6 right now

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7glpmGULDy4

>>34273
What a shame. Shes an amazing vocal. It sucks how people consistently let the great quality vocals flop because they dont give instant engagement

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>>34284
Koto is my wife

Does any producer use Vocalochanger or is it just a meme

>>36593
No one uses it for anything serious

I wonder if they'll ever update the V6 vocoders or just leave that for V7

>>36650
I would hope they upgrade it for V6… but honestly, a better vocoder alone would probably result in a quality increase enough to justify the V6->V7 upgrade cost, so I fear they’ll wait

>>36593
Vocalochanger kinda sucks

>>36653
I want to believe that V7 will be much closer to VoiSona than Cevio in terms of sound. It doesn't make sense to have an engine as noisy as V6's for what's meant to be its better successor.

to v6 owners, how big of an upgrade is it? i still use v5

>>36761
Stick with V5 unless you really care about the AI voicebanks

When are we getting Ouka Miko?