I imagine English to Japanese is easier than Japanese to English except for the occasional homophones in English. This is because Japanese is highly context specific so it is more difficult to machine translate. Ideally for personal conversations you should be using a local hosted LLM but in other cases I have been using a Mozhi instance and set it to "all engines" so I can compare different translations to get a better idea of what might be the actual meaning when going JP > EN

>>503
>Mozhi
What's this and does it run on a shit pc?

>>507
You can self host it but you don't have to. It is just a front end proxy for different translator sites like Google, DeepL, DuckDuckGo, MyMemory, Reverso and sometimes others depending on the instance. Here is one so you can get an idea what it looks like.
https://mozhi.pussthecat.org/

Firefox has a built in local translator that does not reply on servers but it doesn't work that great for Japanese.

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>>508
Found one that works better (https://translate.azaka.fun/)
But thanks anon

I've tried their extension and it's effective for translating entire pages. Better than Brave's garbage built in translator at least.

>>509
Yeah some instances go offline a while. I knew of others but wanted to avoid too many people going to same ones since these tend to be run off individuals computers.

You can actually proofread with Kagi or at least their extension. Just found out today.

>>517
How does proof reading work? It corrects grammar?

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>>519
Pretty much

>>520
But does it work for Japanese grammar?

Nice, now it's paid. The only decent translator out there and now you have to pay for it.
https://blog.kagi.com/translate-update

What's unlikely great about their translation quality? Or is it just gut feeling?
Honestly GPT baseline is already really good at most JP<->EN translation, but I'm not familiar with what Kagi's secret sauce is for translate. They've trained models for search queries so I assume they've done a finetune for translate.

>>652
As someone who's used Kagi before, for me it's the accuracy with which it translated things and the ability to proofread stuff in case you made a mistake even in your native language. I've user other LLMs before like Chat GPT, Grok, etc but Kagi is the only one I felt was extremely accurate and I've been using it to talk to some of my friends who don't understand English.

>>652
>I assume they've done a finetune for translate.
Yeah that's likely. (samefag btw)

I recently found out DeepL makes slightly better translation when you do Japanese to British English instead of to American English.

>>655
interesting

>>498
Any clue how long this thing will be paid for? I can afford it, I just don't know if its worth it

>>657
Honestly i wouldn't bother much with Kagi for the time being. Yes, it's the best, but if you gotta use AI for translating stuff, most LLMs can already do the job pretty well.

>>658
Which would you recommend? Kagi was fully uncensored so if you had to translate something like "Fuck you suck my dick" it would. ChatGPT considers that offensive.