No.853
>>850Una SV was so underwhelming to me imo..feels, sounds, and looks like some random utaite and not my cute denpa loli..
No.855
I prefer UTAU Teto to SV Teto. I like how SV sounds but her pitch is lower (that probably has something to do with the voice provider aging though) and has too much vibrato.
No.859
I never liked ECHO and I kind of don't get why it gets so much praise… there's nothing about it that stands out to me, except I guess the PV?
No.860
>>859For me it's mainly because it's one of those songs that make me want to jump and sing my heart out. I grew up listening to it so I know the lyrics from start to finish. I think the reason it's popular is both because of the PV and because it was released at the peak of the "edgy" era of Vocaloid. Calalini had come out 2 years earlier and Wysteria had come out the same year.
No.861
Not much of an unpopular opinion but i dislike "Miku oo ee oo". I respect Anamanaguchi as a band but that song screams "I was forced to write this" and Miku's EN voicebank sounds really bad.
The only people i've seen who can make EN Miku sound good are SAWTOWNE and CircusP.
No.862
>>860That's totally fair, I think my issue is that I was in high school when it came out, and it was like "why is this song so simple?". It makes more sense as the kind of thing that you'd watch when you're a kid first getting into Vocaloid. There's definitely a lot of songs I like because they're really nostalgic.
No.863
i think i understand why someone wouldn't like english/non-asian-language vocaloid songs, but i think a lot of it is because they only look at the most popular shit. a lot of getting popular is about appealing to edgy 13 year olds rather than making good or unique music - or it's just about making the most boring sounding electronic pop music imaginable (though i do understand this has the widest appeal). good producers get overshadowed a lot by the crap… just searching "synthv original" and sorting by upload date gives some pretty good results
also don't get me wrong i like edgy music but i want it to come from an actual place in someone's heart rather than just 'there are bodies on da wall and i am eating rats in my silly bowl' as lyrics
No.864
I got into CircusP through Creepy Toast so y'know…..
I was a dumb kiddo in middle school (or possibly just entering high school) and thought it was the most awesome thing
idk what was wrong with me lmao
No.865
>>864To be fair Circus is probably the best out of the older, popular english vocaPs so not a bad introduction. I still dig iNSaNiTY and aiSeNMa.
No.867
>>863I feel this, I'd be really interested in English song recs for legit underrated stuff. There's a lot more producers now compared to when it was like, five people who all knew each other
No.868
I love the SP banks..Meiko, Luka, and Kaito could use some work but the other 3 sound good to me, kinda like what I wish NT sounded like
No.870
>>868The kagamines are hard to fuck up
No.872
I really hate when people draw Adachi Rei without joints.
No.873
>>872i have done this once, acidentally
sorry anon
No.877
I really like cevio's engine noise, it makes KAFU and RIME sound cuter.
No.881
It's really annoying when a producer makes a song that gets really popular and then starts to make every song afterwards similar to that one.
No.890
I like Pearto.
No i don't use twitter or reddit.
No.968
>>859Well, for starters, the era of ENGloid ECHO belongs to was remarkable for having many producers who were for the most part unskilled, underage and only attracted other English speakers from within the fandom itself. The two best English producers back then were Crusher and Circus and they just so happened to form a duo at the time called "CIRCRUSH" which made ECHO. For the time it was a really well produced song from the English side of the Vocaloid community, the music video is iconic and so is the song's chrous so it ended up becoming a hit in both the EN/JP sides with some popular producers and utaites covering and remixing the song (most notably Giga/REOL).
The CIRCRUSH duo lasted about 2 years because they had a fight but I can't recall the details. Most people attribute the song to just Crusher but Circus did the mastering and tuning.
No.1002
I kinda hate how nowadays a song's popularity primarily depends on how appealing the music video is. Butcher Vanity being the biggest example i can think of. Not that the song itself is bad but let's be honest, the only reason an engloid song managed to become that popular in the current year is because of the music video. Most engloid producers are still stuck in 2013 and use static images/drawings for their songs.
No.1004
I'm gonna be murdered for this one but Mimukauwa Nice Try isn't that great. Loli Miku is very cool and i gotta give it props for pissing children and tourists off but the song itself is probably N_u's most boring to date.
No.1010
>>1004Nah I liked it and agree, the Zundamon song was way better
No.1011
>>1004Agreed. It just feels like it was made to bait people into making animation memes or whatever, their other songs are so much better.
No.1012
>>1011At least it gave us that cute 39neko design.
>It just feels like it was made to bait people into making animation memesThis is the fate of any recent vocaloid song with a music video, look at lagtrain, kyu kurarin, rabbit hole and mesmerizer. I wouldn't say it's a bad thing though, unless the song is sexual because it'll just make kids shit their diapers and act like hyper religious moms. Animation memes have been around since the Flipnote era if not earlier.
No.1155
>>970How did you even meet beat? he seems like a really private guy
No.1158
>>1011tbf this is a lot of modern vocaloid PVs
No.1160
>>1155I am an artist before a website manager (I did the artwork featured on the frontpage as of January 2025) so i have basically looked up to Wur for as long as i can remember, i've also dabbled in NSFW artwork before so that's how we met, and he just so happens to be friends with Beat. Again, lost contact with them both, so contacting them again when they probably don't even remember me is hopeless so i'm not even gonna bother. Also i was already familiar with Beat's work before he was a producer because aside from an artist i was also heavily involved in the OTOMAD scene circa 2015-2018, which Beat also belonged to around that time - you probably recognize him for doing the audio for some of Mowtendoo's videos and i believe he also contributed to Siivagunner around that time although i never really followed that channel so i could be wrong.
No.1182
I don't like how a lot of modern vocaloid songs feel like they're specifically made to go viral, especially after Mesmerizer. You've got these earworms with animated PVs and dances featuring Miku or Teto (or both) and every time I hear them they just feel so forced.
No.1190
>>1182I love the flashy PVs that come with them especially Monitoring, but I am the zoomer that those PVs are baiting so I’m biased w
No.1191
>>1190I'm a zoomer myself, never said i didnt like them, just that they feel kinda forced and made to go viral. This was probably a thing before but its especially noticeable post-Mesmerizer.
No.1277
>>1155I seriously read this as "How did you beat your meat?" and was confused.
Also the idea of Beat using 39ch is really funny to me. I highly doubt any popular vocaPs use this site really. Barely anyone knows about this place which just adds to its charm. It truly is a safe haven for the vocaboomers.
No.1303
>>1160Is the beat_shobon x moth collab happening anytime soon?
No.1528
I'm not upset about AI voicebanks existing but I wish non-AI VBs would still come out
No.1532
i hope it doesn't sound bad as i don't mean to offend (it's a question), but i don't know why the current community considers ruko as bigender or intersex. is it because they want to disassociate her status from a fantasy nsfw term?
that is my confession, that i never understood that decision, and excuse my ignorance
No.1533
>>1532If you mean futanari then yeah you'd be correct
No.1534
>>1533yes, i do mean the sudden change from futanari to intersex/bigender
No.1535
>>1534I'm pretty sure it's coz futanari is under the umbrella of intersex, having a peen + vagina makes u intersex unless its thru surgery. even lesser things like having hirsutism can make u be considered intersex
No.1540
>>1532>is it because they want to disassociate her status from a fantasy nsfw term?Yes, along with erasing the VIPPERs’ history entirely.
No.1541
>>1540>along with erasing the VIPPERs’ history entirelycan you elaborate? the only thing i noticed is that the fandom treats Tei as this shy girl who loves Teto instead of a yandere shotacon who masturbates a lot (canon)
No.1546
>>1543wait wtf
I knew they got rid of her sharingan thing and fetish for traffic lights but I didnt know they got rid of basically everything else too…….
No.1575
Kaito and Gakupo will always be perverts to me even if the fandom hates when they're depicted like that
No.1594
>>1303lol sure. when the stars align.
>>1575always has been. always will be.
No.1596
>>1593Sorry anon but the implication that mikurin was a psyop is so funny to me
No.1597
>>1596it kind of feels like that actually, it was such a weird phase that i really think it was made to trick people into shipping miku x rin. no hate to the ship though
No.1628
>>1596Yeah and Zako was commissioned by the American government to attempt to get the US at war with Japan
No.1637
>>1636I'm looking respectfully
No.1937
I don't like that people ship literally every UTAU with Teto
No.1938
>>1937That is a very 2014 deviantart fangirl take
No.2069
I like Kaito's voice
I like Ryuto's voice
I like Flower's voice
I like Sonika's voice
All vsynths sound good when tuned correctly
No.2130
A vocal-synth dev is probably browsing this site right now and we don't know
No.2182
I wish 39chan had been a thing a year earlier just to see the reactions to Teto SV lol
No.2355
Popipo is a pretty bizarre song if you think about it because why is Miku advertising vegetable juice to me
No.2409
I just realized that OSTER Project was making music for self-harm heroin Sanrio girls in the late 2000's before those even existed lol. Love-Colored Ward is amazing.
No.7825
My confession is that i kinda liked Luka SP. It was bad yes but not terrible, she is very much listenable.
>>1303I saw that moth follows him on Twitter so it might be closer than ever
No.7826
>>7825It's not a mutual follow
No.7835
>>850I've never liked Adachi Rei's voice, I don't like Rot for Clout or Bird Brain, and I still unironically like FOOLISH by GHOST (formerly Marz Mitzi)
I feel like a lot of modern Western songs blend together, and there's little variety like there was back in the day. I feel like R.I.P and Circus are some of the only producers using Wholoids that get attention, and I love their music.
No.7874
>>2069Kaito hatred is forced to be honest
No.7877
>>7874It’s kind of a funny bit. That’s our beloved Kermit! (I don’t actually think he’s kermit-like)
No.7878
>>850i unironically dislike Luka, she only has 1 good voicebank the others suck only 1 good song (feat with another vocaloid doesn't count) she was a industry plant to serve as a "Miku counterpart" to work similar to Meiko Kaito or Len Rin but quickly got replaced with GUMI, Rin and now Teto because the community never bought that. And her fans are just like Teto fans they just listen to 2 songs. repeat the same unfunny memes and claim that she is underrated. My opinion might change if she ever get a good voicebank, untill then she still a industry plant that was relevant for 2 years
No.7879
>>7878We and all the Yuyoyuppe fans are gonna boil you in acid
No.7880
>>7877Even if he was, I think it would be a cute aspect to his voice
No.7881
>>7878Anon found dead in an alley
No.8048
I love a lot of songs using her but I'm sick to death of TetoSV sounding exactly the same
No.8051
>>8048Her timbre is fine, but the default crazy vibrato on every note is busted. One of the main advantages of concatenative engines is that they won’t fuck up the pitch unless they’re told. With SV the purpose of tuning isn’t typically to increase realism, it’s to increase consistency.. opposite of concatenative.
No.8059
Listening to Anri songs makes me vomit
No.8060
>>8059What did Anri do to you
No.8581
I like SV Teto tomboyish and mature voice more then the cute UTAU, Even tho is not as powerful as UTAU the SV give more contrast when paired with other VBs other then that AI VBs are more welcoming to people who are not into vocaloids to get used to it
No.8584
I really hate how adachi rei is treated like the 4th utau sister, she has no right to even be near any of the others, a complete newcomer(2019) who took years to become relevant(2022 or 23)
No.8592
>>8588It made sense to me because in her art she looks pretty tall
No.10239
>>10238
>TORA_V4
i wouldn't trust the opinion of a chipmunk fucker
No.10241
>>10239I was offline, Tora was here??? What????
No.10244
>>10241Nah. Anon drunk rant, but it got deleted.
No.17326
>>7878It should be a bannable offense to post opinions like this one
No.22367
Sometimes i get Lily and IA mixed up. I once got asked what my favorite IA song was and I said Wave by Niki.
No.22368
>>22367I was gonna say that both are forgotten but then i remembered that IA at least got a new voicebank and a few commissioned songs
No.22410
>>22401Both of them are wholoids who used to be very popular
No.22687
Someone found a wholoid (Anon, even) cover of a lost Vocaloid song I must've made in either late 2017 or 2018. It's horrible and you could tell I used the EN to JP autoconverter without mixing it (if I did, it was mixed straight in V4...awful.), if you're curious I uploaded it as a catbox here:
https://files.catbox.moe/kkzhss.mp3I know its weird to post here as a confession post, but even if it doesn't reflect the current quality of my work whatsoever, I'm extremely nostalgic for it. It came from an era where, while I had pretty terrible mental health, it was before my life fell apart for a bit. I don't mind it being found at all, in fact, I'm happy it was recovered.
No.22689
>>22687Its on par with the music from that period tbh.
No.22691
>>850when i was 8 i thought tonio and prima were italian
No.22693
>>22689You're not wrong. I think a lot of it comes from most of the new producers of the era being teenagers, usually under 16, when they start out. The mixing of said producer was far better than mine, but also had nothing notable like a lot of classic and new producers alike. I hope the producer gets back into making music one day.
No.22709
>>22692I mean Tonio comes from Antonio and Prima from Primadonna, so I can see how you'd think that
No.22727
>>22710I want to forcefully remove that television off her head
No.22946
>>22427I want to be optimistic but it doesn't seem like people are making originals with her. At least she still has covers but it just doesn't cut it for me...
No.22947
>>22946Go to VocaDB, click recent songs and sort by original songs there's a bunch
But yeah it's not enough
No.22953
>>22946Wasn't there an IA collab album coming out?
No.22955
>>22953Yes but it's all Voisona
No.22957
>>22955Eh its better than nothing
No.22963
>>22955Her voisona isnt that bad
No.23649
Whenever I'm stressed I go on VocaDB and start submitting songs/editing
No.23656
i use ai art unironically because i am not wasting money on commissions for a song like 20 people maximum will hear because no one cares about my music except for my friend. i do try to touch it up though so it's not like i'm posting ugly piss tinted miku with 8 fingers "art" on my youtube page.
No.23662
>>23649I do this
>>23656You can do what NicoNico producers did in the late 2000's and just draw the worst Miku imaginable in MS Paint
No.23670
>>23656>i use ai art unironicallyPlease don't. Do what
>>23662 said, or sketch something on paper, use someone else's art, pose a MikuMikuDance model, photograph a figurine or plush, take a screenshot of a videogame, crop some pornography - just anything other than AI kuso.
No.23672
>>23662>>23670Adding to this, Piapro literally exists to post fanart (and other stuff) that people can use for free
No.23673
>>23662Seconding this, wowaka wrote all-time hall of fame songs with gray square mspaint visuals. It can be good for your brand.
No.23687
>>23673>your brandI have special eyes
No.23688
>>23687look with your special eyes