No.3853
>>3852Why were there so many tripfags on old /jp/?
>Support Miku's first game or she'll go broke and be forced into the JAV industry to make rentI lol'd
No.3857
>>3855I'm glad that even 15 years ago we knew that Lily is a slut
>>3856Actually she is best VIPPERLOID
No.3877
I'm glad we're past the "every vocaloid sounds like miku" era because who listens to Tei and hears Miku?
Also what the hell was the anon in
>>3855 on about? what's wrong with Miki and Yuki being cute?
No.3879
>>3877This is just a really random guess, but my assumption is just coz she's a girl with a high vocal pitch range
I can't imagine really tho
No.3880
>>3879Tei isn't the only voicebank they said this about. Check the archives and you'll see it a lot.
No.3977
>>3855>gaijin slut>she looks like a whoreLily is never escaping the slut allegations is she
No.3989
>>3977She looks like she blows dudes for cheap though
No.4070
>>3855Who is "Sensei"? Kiyoteru?
No.4075
>>3852>I'm hoping they'll have Teto tooOh 2009 anon, you're not gonna believe this
No.4829
Does anybody have any archives from when Teto SV was released and the time period in which Mesmerizer really took off?
I know 39chan itself was created just a few months after Mesmerizer released so sadly there's no archive of that but i guess the discussions about its repercussions will give people from the future an insight into what people thought of them in 2025 (>>1585)
No.4830
>>4829It's crazy to me how influential that song became in such a short period of time. By the time 39chan launched it was already popular and had a ton of copycat songs already.
No.4835
>>4834And finally, here's Mesmerizer
A lot of people just saw it as another viral song
No.4843
>>4835it was just another viral song tbf.
No.4851
>>4834i like how the reception was mostly positive. now that she's popular they hate her because muh popular = bad.
>>4835lol didn't that last guy post here once? typing style is oddly familiar.
No.4856
>>4834Before Teto SV came out they were talking about Zundamon btw
No.5073
>>4835And thus, Tetofag was born
No.7144
>>4834Probably the last time that board was actually excited over vocaloid related news. Things have only gotten worse after that.
No.7145
>>7144Until Miku V6 comes out, and that's if it comes out in the first place considering she's already suffering from Big AL Syndrome
No.7917
Can't remember where exactly it was on, but I recall an early Myriad Virtual Singer forum where they were talking about Vocaloid when it was first announced back in 2004.
It was very funny 'cause they said something about Vocaloid not taking off. Quite funny considering where we are today.
No.7918
>>7917It did, just not in the way they were probably thinking
No.10175
>>4833This was probably the last time Vocaloid threads on /jp/ were decent. After this they became irredeemable dogshit.
No.10176
>>10175Elaborate
I've used /jp/ before but didn't know they had vocaloid threads until recently
No.10177
>>10176nta but before sv teto the vocaloid generals (on /jp/) were a lot more civilized and similar to what /leek/ is now. less twitter screenshots and drama, less bait, actual discussion about the songs and characters.
No.12807
>>3855Wow. She wasn't even out and people were already calling her a whore.
No.12815
>>4851>i like how the reception was mostly positive. now that she's popular they hate her because muh popular = bad."Everybody loves the underdog, and then they take an underdog and make him a hero, and they hate him"
No.13950
>>13947Thanks for caring about her
No.13971
>>13946She was one of the best sounding vocaloids from that era so yes i care. The new one sounds alright.
No.14108
>>13946Things will get better IAbro. When the new voicebank releases you'll start seeing new songs with her. 1st Place marketing her a lot lately also helps.
No.14111
>>13971Those are strong words, maybe she was one of the most flexible but I was never that thrilled to see her in another Jin song.. might be biased since I associate her with the ~2012 drop in popularity of vocaloid mascot characters vs. OCs.
No.14113
>>14111The OC stuff was less common in the early 2010s tho
No.14118
>>14111IA enjoyed a small window of the mascot era. Some of her early songs (like 2012-2014) feature her in the PV. In some cases she's even formed as the basis for the OC like in Heisei Project and Six Trillion Years, something like the Evillious Chronicles.
The real drop was around 2015 which was brought up by an utaite lamenting this in a video (Coleena summarized the whole thing here:
https://papercoleena.tumblr.com/post/123558413480). Nanahoshi Orchestra actually made a song in reference to that utaite's sentiment.
To associate her with the decline is a bit unfair, granted Kagerou Project was one of the major reasons for the decline in mascot culture, but she was simply caught in the crossfire. The fact that 1st Place tries really hard nowadays to market a character for her makes it seem like the whole thing was an accident and they're trying to recover from it.
No.14121
>>14118You're right, I'm thinking of Kagepro. I appreciate that 1st Place is trying to characterize IA, especially with her V6 reboot, but man they have some weird management practices...
No.14123
I could never get into KagePro because i never knew where to start lol
No.14125
>>14123At the time it was literally just like, listen to the songs as they come out and try to guess what the plot is. They did a manga/anime earlier but I never engaged with them. So really I'd just listen to the music in order of release.
No.14151
>>14123the manga and light novel are really good
No.14173
>>4835>>4834If they knew...
No.14184
>>14173Well they know now
No.14197
>>13946Try being a Lily fan, you'll have a worse time
No.14202
>>14197TRY BEING A CHIKA FAN
No.14208
>>14202Miriam fans have it worse than all of you lol
No.15645
I remember reading a couple of archived vocaloid threads from the 2000s and it's funny how many people thought Miku was overrated while Teto was some sort of hidden gem
<teto captcha
No.19331
>>19305People had mixed opinions about Aki Glancy back in the day I'm not surprised
No.19343
>>15645Teto was never obscure, she just wasn't mainstream, which i guess she is now
That being said though, I prefer Yuki and IA
No.20878
>>20867history repeats itself!
No.20880
>>20867Obviously the concern is overstated but this wasn't an entirely uncommon perspective. Arguably much of the reason Vocaloid exited its "golden age" around 2013-2014 is because sentiment like this boiled over to the point of being self-fulfilling. Bandwagoners attached themselves Vocaloid, it stopped being trendy, and interest trailed off. It's worth keeping this in mind for any cultural trend that appears to have unstoppable momentum online.
No.20881
>>20880and now people are saying this again lol
No.20904
>>20867People have always had this "old X better, new X bad" mentality, especially Vocaloid fans. If i'm not mistaken 2011 is when Vocaloid and Hatsune Miku started becoming popular in the west, those weird Toyota commercials are from around that era. So i can kinda understand where that anon is coming from even if i disagreed then and disagree now.
No.20917
>>20904The best thing to come out of Miku becoming normified in the early 2010s is the Domino's Commercial
No.20920
>>20867Damn i kinda wish that site was still a thing
No.20922
>>20878We're very close to coming full circle and hating on things the old fandom hated. Mainstream songs? Check. Fujoshis/Shippers? Check. Pocaloid producers? Ehh, not yet but knowing this fandom it's probably gonna happen.
>>20920It was literally the same thing as this site except with like 10 more character boards instead of a general one like /c/ and way more tripfags. You're legit not missing out on much. On top of that 39chan has the Mikuchan theme.
No.20923
>>20922I disagree, i feel like pirate producers will become more respected in the community (the Western one at least, because Japan hates them) due to AIbros. Pirate producers might not pay for Vocaloid but they at least make covers and originals. AIbros just put draw a Miku face on their turd and go "Yeah this is a vocaloid song". Not to mention they're completely blacklisted from sites like VocaDB and if you're caught using shit like Suno your career is over.
No.20925
>>20922It's only Twitter that hates the fujos with a burning passion. We welcome them here and they even have their own threads like the fic thread and some yaoi ones on /c/.
>>20923Yep, you hit the nail on the head anon. OKISO and GluttonousP are perfect examples.
No.20945
>>20923Anti-piracy people still exist in the fandom, they're just not as common as in the 2010s because Vocaloid is massive now
No.20971
>>20923This. Not to mention a chunk of newer Vocaloid songs made with discontinued banks like Piko are likely pirated as well and I don’t think Piko fans are gonna give a shit if someone didn’t wanna pay a million bucks to make a song with him. Only a handful of his active western producers have a legit copy tmk.
No.20972
>>20923I'll take a song made using pirated vocaloid over a """vocaloid""" song made in Suno like CryDie honestly
No.21040
If they ever bring back PJD (I doubt they will) I hope they never bring those awful toony visuals from MM back
No.21061
>>21040I didn't mind the shading in Megamix personally but i'm glad there's the option to go back to Future Tone's
No.21065
>>21034so true but hope becomes the last thing to die when youre delusional #TrustThePlan
No.21161
>>20922And now it's apparently cool to hate GHOST again
No.21169
>>21163Right, i forgot about the "GHOST ruined vocaloid" era
No.21174
>>20867Lol, the "vocaloid used to be good" people just evolve
No.21180
>>20922yeah i thought it was a post on this site at first
No.21195
>>21174I know for a fact that the mid 2020s will be considered the golden era of Vocaloid by 2030.
No.21202
>>21195And they'd be right. People only hate it because of Mesmerizer clones and Xitter infighting but those things can easily be ignored.
No.21221
>>21195Silver age, I think. It's too early to say what will have a lasting impact when concerts right now are full of the early hits.
No.21222
>>21195I'm going to be honest, there isn't a lot of memorable songs for me. Maybe I'm just becoming jaded.
No.21223
>>21222I think that has more to do with the fact that there's songs coming out every 10 minutes and a lot of them top the charts while the rest fade into obscurity. Things were slower in the 2010s.
>>21221>concerts right now are full of the early hits.This, but also the problem is that the majority of big songs right now are Teto and you know damn well there will never be something like Magical Mirai with Teto (unless it's fanmade).
No.21224
>>21223Things were slower but also more centralized. The nico rankings really helped solidify a set of producers and songs as iconic.
No.21225
>>21224I remember Vocarank back in the day but i heard they stopped doing those
No.21229
>>21221>early hitsI mean, what do you expect? The old songs are still popular even with the newgens. It's the same thing that happens with 90s bands that fill their setlists with all their 90s singles. People consider them timeless classics.
But i get your point, I think there's a couple songs I'd consider classics from this era but ironically none of them involve the cryptonloids outside of Miku (and even then they're usually duets).
No.21232
The one 'classic' from the 2020s (if you can call it that) that I want to hear live is Heat Abnormal but I've accepted that it's never gonna happen.
No.21233
>>21224I'm curious what people here would consider iconic today. I'm of course referring specifically to newgen producers.
No.21235
>>21233You're gonna hate me for this one but Mesmerizer. It basically changed Vocaloid for the entirety of this decade, not sure if for better or for worse, but you can't deny its impact.
No.21236
>>21232Agreed but Iyowa in general is an iconic producer this decade
No.21238
>>21235Anon said producers not songs but yeah 32ki unintentionally defined this decade with Mesmerizer and i think people do look forward to his new stuff as evidenced by his recent songs
No.21239
>>21238I like 32ki, but people only look forward to his music that includes some variation of the Triple Baka squad. His other stuff is good too but everybody just wants MikuTeto kuso and forgets about his other songs
No.21246
>>21223TetoLive is a thing but it's small and only held in Japan plus I heard it was expensive.
No.21247
>>21232Never say never
Fanmade concerts are a thing and held pretty often in the US
No.21252
>>21246Tetolive is even smaller than IA Party
No.21253
>>21225The usual uploader (syudou) is still having internet issues. He was scheduled to get fiber to his home but because of some ISP issue, but I think he's been stuck using a dog slow satellite connection. He's apparently compiling data still.
>>21246It's really fun, in my experience. The more intimate scale instead of sitting in a dome fish bowl or a multi-floor arena is like getting a little bit of Mikufes or early Mikupa flavor. Half the fun of these events are doing the calls and it's better to have a crowd that knows them well instead of a large crowd that knows them somewhat or not at all.
No.21256
>>21253Did you go to Teto Live? (The actual concert not the DJ event). I saw footage of it and the room looked very small and crowded, which is usually uncomfortable.
No.21259
>>21256I was, though I was also at Teto Sonic. Japan lives aren't really made for comfort to begin with so I don't really pay much mind to more than view angles and sound, and if the drink tickets are rip-off (some have started charging extra for more than water). Duo Music Exchange is definitely small and not usually used for idol style performances, big floor columns as well. The junkiness is sort of why I forge the comparison to Mikufes at all even though Studio Coast was a much nicer venue (RIP), but what I really appreciated most about Teto Live was that the band had equal presence to Teto.
You'll probably find this year's more agreeable. Zepp Shinjuku is actually one of the better Zepps in terms of sound staging and has kusoed floors, so it's not total flatlands at usual junk like Makuhari. Just sort of a bog standard box. The fact that they did move up to a Zepp though means they must have been really confident about attendance.
No.21260
>>21259>kusoedFigamin please relax the filters on this site holy fuck.
No.21261
>>21260sl0p being filtered to kuso is funny tho
No.21262
>>21260I love how Figamin doesn't even own this site and people still always blame him lol
No.21263
>>21261Kissu filters "shit" to "kuso" as well for whatever reason and it always makes me chuckle whenever i see it
No.21264
>>21260It's that brazilian Puzzle guy not Figamin, and prior to that it was owned by moth
No.21265
>>21261It is funny when you're actually trying to say sl0p but when you're trying to write something like sl0ped it can be annoying
No.21267
>>21259From what I've seen the Teto Live show has this weird DIY vibe to it that I really enjoy. It reminds me of the type of Vocaloid concerts they do at cons.
No.21492
>>21161>nowPeople have always hated Ghost
No.21822
>>21030No hope here. Just pure delusion.
No.22981
>>22977lily confirmed fake and gay
No.22983
>>22981lul, i like how "yuri" is the reason they thought it was fake
No.22985
>>22983Cause yuri is fake and gay