No.2704
>>2702who, pinocchiop or doushite-chan?
because pinocchiop is great. doushite-chan is sexo.
No.2705
>>2704To me Pino peaked with Obscure Questions. His new stuff is enjoyable too but it doesn't hit the same way and i miss the guitars.
>doushite-chan is sexoThis creature is attractive to you?
No.2706
he's one of my favourite producers for a reason. i love both his new and old stuff and i hope he'll be around for a long time
No.2708
>>2706i don't see him retiring. he's been in the game for decades and he's a huge mikutard (and i say this in the best way possible). i remember people were scared he'd start making vtuber only music after the nekomata song but after that he went back to making miku songs.
No.2710
>>2708I think Kira also does both vtuber and vocaloid music so it seems a lot of VTubers and vtuber companies really like to ask producers for a hand with their music, it’s pretty cool
No.2736
>>2710I think there's a bit of overlap with both communities. Some vtubers are former producers
Circus lol, long time fans or are voice providers themselves. So it isn't too surprising imo. Mogu Mogu Yummy was cool btw.
No.2796
>>2702These days I listen to his music and I like some of the songs, but then I hear Rotten Heresy and Chocolate again and just miss his rock-type style. No producer has really filled the same niche for me.
Godish and super-superhero are both pretty good, and I guess the lyrics are meta-commentary on his music career.
No.2798
>>2796God-ish is one of his best modern songs. Shame it's not on Project Diva and will never be.
No, SEKAI is not a Diva game. No.2887
One of the few old producers that remain that still make good music
No.2889
>>2887OSTER Project still makes good music too
No.2907
>>2798Godish has a genuinely emotional feel to it which sets it apart from his other modern stuff to me. I think that’s why it’s one of his strongest.
>>2889Oster is underrated now. Weird since her stuff has been so good for so long.
No.3199
>>2702Easily my favorite producer that I've been listening to since Poncotsu. My very first Magical Mirai I ever went to 2 years ago featured "Because You're Here" and I was bawling my eyes out by the end of it. And I'm going to his concert in 2 weeks as well.
No.3201
absolutely my favorite producer
No.3326
He's doing a stream of his concert on May 8th. It's not free though.
No.3327
>>3326Not a fan of paying for livestreams tbh. I'd rather go to an actual concert.
No.3527
>>3326I'm going to his show this weekend in Osaka, but it's not the one he's streaming, that's next week in Tokyo. It's not my first show so I already know photos and videos are allowed, wondering if I should post some here or maybe make a thread on /live/
No.3529
>>3527would love to see this
No.3530
Are producer concerts different compared to regular Miku concerts?
No.3533
>>3532I was expecting a Miku hologram but honestly I'm not even mad this is perfect. I'd go see him live.
No.3536
>>3535Nice. Would love to hear God-ish live.
No.3611
>>3610Have fun anon, do it for me
No.3616
>>3615I appreciate the fact that he brought the aimaina and doushite plushies
No.3617
>>2702I hope everyone at the concert had fun!
As for my opinions on Pinocchio himself, I don't think his songs past around 2018 are for me, unfortunately. But I will never pass up Rotten Heresy and Chocolate or Apple Dot Com
No.3618
>>3617I feel like this with post-Obscure Questions PinocchioP but honestly I do really a lot of the stuff he has put out this decade: Love for Love, Tensei Ringo, God-ish, etc
No.3622
>>3618Yeah, he still makes good songs here and there but it feels like the passion is gone.
No.3623
>>3622I wouldn't say that the passion is gone. He's still very much into Vocaloid and a lot of his recent stuff is pretty good/doesn't feel lazy or created to go viral. I feel like if the passion for making Vocaloid stuff was really gone he'd be focusing 100% on DAIHAKKEN (project which has been abandoned since 2020).
No.3625
>>3623Great point. There's also a spark of creativity still going by God-ish.
Pinocchio is better than Deco in that regard, everything Deco makes is view-chasing nowadays.
No.3626
>>3625DECO has been like that since Vampire blew up
No.3627
>>3626Yeah, Vampire is his last song I enjoyed, and even then it was a sort of mild enjoyment rather than liking or loving it. Usually vampire theming instantly makes me like a song, too.
I'm glad the JP community still has old Voca-P's that haven't sold out (Pinocchio, Utsu-P, etc)
No.3634
>>3632>Not a single phone in sightAre all Japanese concerts like this?
No.3636
>>3615This rocks
>>3623<he'd be focusing 100% on DAIHAKKENYou could argue he feels trapped by vocaloid since daihakken never caught on. It felt to me like it needed its own aesthetic identity. If he's going to go for a clean pop sound he'd be better served by Miku, although Human was a pretty good album anyway.
No.3639
>>3636i remember it being a bit successful when the first song came out
No.3642
>>3634There were plenty of people using their phones. Usually they aren't allowed though
No.3643
One last one, it's almost a whole song and one of my favorites.
https://streamable.com/thtxyc>>3636I don't think he feels trapped at all. In his interviews and the 15th anniversary book he says he feels like he's married to Miku and doesn't see himself quiting vocaloid anytime in the future.
No.3644
>>3643Doing god's work anon, hope you had fun
No.3645
>>3644Pretty much most of the songs I wanted to hear that he's already done live weren't there (Mushroom Mother, Magical Girl, Love it, Reincarnation Apple) , but it was still good fun regardless. I'm probably gonna pay for the stream for the next show too, and some anon on another chan said he'd try to record it.
No.4395
>>3632Just watched these and it looks very fun
this is the first time i see a concert from a producer rather than having their song featured on mikuexpo or something and honestly im surprised at how well it works
No.4440
I bought a ticket to the stream. Downloaded it with yt-dlp and trimmed the dead time before and after the show with MKVToolNix. Douzo:
https://files.catbox.moe/f5zg8m.torrent No.4443
>>4440Appreciate it brother
No.5606
>>5605*Kikuoland oops
Cool garage kit as an apology for double posting
No.5607
>>5605I wouldn't say it's impossible
No.5614
>>5605I'm more surprised Kikuo had one on the first place
No.5620
>>5605This last tour he did was his first international one, but honestly China, Taiwan, and Korea barely count. I doubt he'd ever do something worldwide like that but a single performance in the US/Europe probably is something he might do.
No.5621
>>5619Just grab the whole show
>>4440 No.5622
>>5620His Asia tour was already pretty small. I could see him performing at large, big city convention, such as AnimeExpo.
No.5681
I love PinocchioP
I will forever love PinocchioP
No.5705
>>5704Is this the new one? (see
>>786)
No.5706
>>5705>newI guess it is the newest thing one though it's from 6 months ago, that's how little merc there is and all these damn plushies are crane game prizes.
No.5707
>>3615hope you had fun anon
No.5962
>>5958I want the Tensei Ringo one
No.6440
>>6439I don't think the goat boy and tensei ringo are meant to be miku or are they?
No.6442
>>2702used to listen to pinocchioP a lot in high school but it fell out of taste for me i guess
No.6445
>>6442Same here except i still listen to him, there's something about his music style that never gets old to me. I'll admit that his newer stuff takes a bit of time to grow on me but i always find myself coming back to his older music circa 2011
No.6599
>>2702One of the best to ever do it, even to this day. Anonymous M was great.
No.6640
>>6468Comic and Cosmic is the album i discovered this guy with. Decided to relisten thanks to your post and it's still amazing.
No.6781
>>6518new song will be mikuteto
source: youtube post
No.6783
>>6781As much as i have mikuteto fatigue its gonna be interesting to see him use a voicebank that isnt miku
No.6787
>>6786Rin elevates his music to an insane degree. Same reason why Strange Animal and Rare-no hit so differently. Will be curious to see his teto tuning
No.6789
>>6781That means there might be a Teto Aimaina
No.6791
>>6781You've heard of Mesmerizer, now get ready for Hypnotizer
No.6798
>>6781should have been miku and luka
No.6811
>>6781Just noticed it's nun Miku on the left and pope Teto on the right.
God-ish 2 confirmed No.6833
Banger and Miku is adorable as hell
No.6835
the song is definitely a diss on Teto growth in popularity and the MikuTeto songs
No.6836
>>6834Love Miku's design here
No.6837
>>6835Is he saying everyone that is blindly using Teto for easy views is like a crazy fanatic? But then he says don't believe this song at the end.
No.6839
>>6834This is Mesmerizer but the roles are swapped
No.6843
I get the message he's trying to convey with the new song but i wasn't a big fan. Feel very weak compared to everything else he's made. Maybe i just need to give it more time for it to grow on me.
No.6876
>>6781Song was good
Not his best but good and not even close to Mesmerizer
No.6901
Maybe it's brainlet take but I don't think it's about Mesmerizer or even trying to evoke the image of it. I think people see "Oh Teto and Miku and hypnosis, Mesmerizer rip off!" but anyone that bothered to watch it would know that's not what the song is about since Miku was actually never hypnotized at all.
No.6903
>>6834I thought the message of the song was pretty obvious. It’s a commentary on blind faith and while dangerous can provide more comfort than to live atheistically.
No.6961
>>6834His Mikus are really cute. I'm really jelly this guy can do it all: draw, compose music and lyrics, and sing.
No.6962
>>6961I feel that way about Iyowa
No.6997
>>6966I hate to say it, but this song is made for hypnosis fetish mikuteto art.
No.6998
>>6997still waiting for it
No.7005
>>7004I see nothing on Pixiv, those fuckers usually work fast
No.7019
>>7018Somehow hadnt even noticed the Teto aimaina in the MV, nice
No.7124
>>6439My favorite Miku designs here are Ghosts Play to the Audience, God-ish and the Reincarnation Apple person (if that's even Miku, I can't even tell if that's a guy or a girl).
No.7159
>2 million
Sugoi. PinocchioP really hadn't been getting these numbers for the past few years
No.7163
>>7159always believe in T
No.7166
>>7165Clone Clone not even making it to the top 5 makes me a bit sad
No.7182
>>7181Get her out of there, she's going to die from asphyxiation
No.7227
>>7226I like this Teto a lot more
No.7238
Miku going "eeh?" in the new song is fucking adorable
No.7245
>>7181Throw her at a wall
No.7290
>>7289kek you actually did it
No.7311
3mil now.
No.7312
>>7311Happy to see Pino doing numbers again
No.7324
>>7312He only had to sell his soul to the red devil to do it
No.7333
>>7325I'm guessing this is exclusive to Japan
No.7335
>>7333It's a single show in Yokohama
I already applied for my tickets No.7418
>>7335Ah no stream this time. Have fun if you make it in.
No.7420
>>7325There was a time in which PinocchioP didn't have mascots?
No.7427
>>7420Yeah, he introduced them in his 3rd album
No.7483
>>7427Did he have a logo before Doushite chan? I don't remember
No.7489
I still haven't listened to the new track because the mesmerizer formula scares me. Also mesmerizer is such a good track that I'm always disappointed in other tracks that try to ape it, even if its pino we're talking about
No.7503
>>7495"Manga" was my introduction to PinocchioP's work so I had completely forgotten there were other albums before that
No.7505
>>7489I'm a PinocchioP fan but the new track was nothing special imo. The artwork is amazing as always, and I love seeing him use Teto, but I thought it was weak compared to his other work.
No.7506
Also...
>unironic tripfagsFor better or worse this feels like I'm back in old /jp/
No.7507
>>7495Whoever drew this cover was horny
No.7510
>>7506I'm too retarded to understand how to use trips
No.7519
>>7507Well Pino does all his own art work...
No.7522
>>7519Pino’s art quality has fluctuated massively over the years. It’s weird, some of his earliest stuff looks more put together than the Slow Motion illusts
No.7526
>>7519Still funny that he drew Miku with a big ass
No.7552
>>7526i think most anons here would do the same lel
No.7651
I'm typically not a fan of Mesmerizer clones but i liked Don't believe in T. Maybe im just biased because like Pinocchio but i thought it was good.
No.7659
>>7651Are we just gonna call any Teto/Miku song Mesmerizer clones now?
No.7661
this is a mesmerizer clone before mesmerizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT8FfQrS37M No.7662
>>7659The only one I'd call a clone is CandyCookieChocolate. The rest are their own thing. But basically any song featuring Miku and Teto made after Mesmerizer is absolutely inspired by Mesmerizer even if not entirely.
No.7664
>>7662I think PinocchioP purposely went with hypnosis in his video as bait and anyone saying the song is just Mesmerizer fell for it. You can argue there never was any hypnosis at all
No.7665
>>7664I'm disappointed he didn't name it Hypnotizer
No.7672
>>7671depends... if he enjoyed using sv teto might as well use her in future songs
No.7675
>>7671>>7672I doubt it considering it's PinocchioP but some variety would be nice
No.7807
New song finally grew on me
No.8340
>>8339Fuck man i'm jealous gg
No.8761
One of the greatest to ever do it
No.8769
>>8472Sad it was so short this year, but Common World Domination was so good
No.8850
>>7289Lol this got made into a banner
No.8910
>>8850I had to reload about 100 times but your right. Didn't even ask my Aimaina if it was okay
No.9102
>>9101I’m not attached to this particular song enough to get her, but the mini doushite/aimaina are super cute.
No.9116
I love PinocchioP so much bros
No.10213
>>9102what song even is it?
No.10217
>>10213That's just how PinocchioP draws Miku, but it was made for Because You're Here.
No.10361
>>10359Was this at one of P's concerts? Also are you a gaijin?
No.10374
>>10373I like how he's always got the beanie on
No.10375
>>10374Imagine PinocchioP without his beanie. It would be like Una without her hat.
No.10379
>>10375Like seeing Fred Durst hatless
No.10381
Last one before bed. File size was too big.
Love Attribute
https://streamable.com/twq4m9 No.10384
>>10380Thanks for sharing anon, that's really cool. Lots of classics in there, love seeing Strange Animals make an appearance. Was that the first of his shows you've been to? Have you caught many other cool Vocaloid events there?
No.10388
>>10384Not my first show. I've been going to all of them since Mimic 2 years ago. I also went to Blooming, Magical Mirai, and I have tickets for the Pokemon concert next year
https://files.catbox.moe/2kgugn.mp4 No.10391
The links weren't working on my computer so I just put them here but with worse quality
https://streamable.com/s7zo1zhttps://streamable.com/b8ybak No.10395
>>10362For a second i thought this was a vinyl record. Really wish PinocchioP released his stuff on vinyl.
No.10430
Fun fact
Doushite chan's first appearance was in Mutant in Love
No.10544
>>10543aimaina isnt real she cant hurt yo-
No.10549
>>10430> Mutant in LoveExtremely good song
No.10552
>>10543I wish they sold those costumes
No.10555
>>10380do you have a recording of doushite chan's theme
No.10578
>>10559I don't like this specific version of the song (OG is better) but I do prefer it with the voice changer, it makes it sounds as if dou-chan is singing it which is 100% what he intended here.
No.10597
>>10543What are you supposed to do in this situation?
No.10599
>>10598I don't like the look she's giving me
No.10626
>>10599don't fight the aimaina
No.10658
Remember that time he used Mayu? Really under appreciated song.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FHzriFn_nPU No.10659
>>10658Sometimes i forget that pinocchio has used other vocaloids aside from miku
No.10661
>>10659Most people probably don't even know since the Comic and Comsic version is Miku.
No.10897
A while back I remember seeing a reference sheet for the character in Love Attribute that also had her official name. Does anybody have it?.
No.11090
>>11000ditto, love nurse girls
No.11591
>>11589Track list
1.Fujimi gokko (translates to "Playing Immortal, maybe that's the next release)
2.Don't Believe in T
3.Super Superhero
4.Fake Meme
5.Apocalypse Now
6.Utuber
7.Q
8.Isn't it A
9.With or Without Me
10.Love Attribute
11.Underworld (also unreleased)
12.The Extremist -Underworld ver- (from his now abandoned solo project,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWtQDm-wAQ)
No.11593
>>11591Damn, his solo project is done? I know its been years now but I was hoping he'd release more
No.11595
>>11593Anon it's been 5 years since the his last update on it. But it is also a bit sad that he really only ever does small back up parts in his songs now.
No.11596
>>11595Yeah, i feel like the most popular song from that project ending up on his new album confirms that its dead. A bit sad considering other producers have had pretty successful solo projects, idk why this one didn't do as well.
No.11597
>>11595>5 yearsTime is a bitch, I thought it was a lot more recent
No.11638
>>11596He just prioritized his vocaloid work is why I think. I remember people thinking Because You're Here was like his Odds and Ends because he announced that project around that time, but he said in an interview that he feels like he's married to Miku and will continue vocaloid as long as he's able to.
No.15193
>>15184At first i thought that was Una. Now that'd be interesting, PinocchioP doing a Una song.
No.15206
>>15184Looks like it could be Playing Immortal, the first track in the trailer. That was already the one I was looking forward to hearing the most
No.15695
>>15662I'm more excited for the fact that Tera is returning for a PinocchioP video than the song itself tbh
No.15698
>>15193Actually, he did do Teto didn't he? Maybe it could happen...
No.15810
>>15807I appreciate the fact that she's been doing Vocaloid MVs for years now
No.15854
>>15662Apparently Terada did the illustration and movie direction while Morinoji did the animation. Morinoji's animation is so smooth
https://x.com/mori_no_ji/status/2014648325279252954 No.15856
>>15854That's two of my favorite artists in one holy fuck
No.16323
I personally can't stand his music
No.16621
>>16617Did you buy this on release or something? Tower records?
No.16626
>>16621I just ordered from booth.
No.16628
>>16626It's been less than a week since release though, right? I didn't know booth was that quick
No.16632
>>16628Well I'm the one that posted the concert footage months ago in this thread. You can imagine why I got it so fast.
No.16642
>>16632How's life in Japan?
No.16688
>>16642Boring like anywhere else really. I'm just always waiting for the next concert. I have to miss Deco and Kikuo this month because of work but I'm going to the pokeman one next month even though I haven't played a game in 10 years at this point.
No.18624
>>18580there's a thread for it on /live/ btw
No.19276
>>2702>What do we think of him?Obscure Questions is nice. I'm not really a fan of his sleepy sounding Miku in his more recent stuff. But I haven't listened to PinocchioP's music that much, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
No.19284
>>19276His miku is relaxing to listen to so i don't mind it
No.19433
Finally got around to listening to the new album. Overall a 7/10 album I think.
S Tier
Underworld
Fake Meme
Isn't it A
Great Tier
Super Super Hero
Don't Believe in T
The Extremeist
Ok tier
With or Without Me
Love Attribute
Apocalypse Now
Could probably grow on me tier
Q
Utuber
Playing Immortal
No.19435
>>19433Love Attribute in Ok tier? i personally really liked that one
No.19508
>>19435I feel like he's done the same message better already
No.19875
>>19860Do you have the doushite plush
No.19908
>>19875Yeah I have a small one
No.21006
I always see in some older videos comments saying how PinocchioP is unique for singing with Miku (like from 10 years ago). Was this something that he started, or at least the first big producer to do so?
No.21012
>>21006Started is probably generous, but he certainly is and was the most prolific person doing it by that point. I think others like Mikito and Picon have independently toyed with the idea rather than being influenced by him, though. I'd personally attribute the idea as much to utaite like 96neko doing Len duets.
No.22347
>>20259Sometimes i forget this guy draws
He's a genius
No.25929
>>25928PinoP really shines when he does meta songs.
No.25931
>>25928I'm sleep deprived and read the title as Retarded Diva
No.25932
>>25928Bit disappointed that he didn't use V6 here but great song, reminds me a lot of Anon M.
No.25944
>>25930>T as a metaphor for blind devotion >blatantly calls her a trendDamn why is he so savage towards Teto?
No.25945
>>25944Because she is a trend
No.25948
>>25944Racism against chimera
No.25974
>>25944dude has a grudge against teto just for the sake of it
No.25975
>>25974It's really funny. I enjoy it when he gets cynical and jaded about some aspect of culture. It's part of why songs like Rotten Heresy and Chocolate and Godish are so compelling.
No.25976
>>25975What is God-ish even about?
No.25979
>>25976My understanding is that it's making fun of Twitter users who call everything godlike. And people's obsession with looking cool despite their shallow understanding. When I read the lyrics I get the vibe that the narrator is seriously pissed off at how stupid everyone is. I could be wrong though.
No.26012
>>25974I don't blame him at all tbh
No.26069
Thinking about how every PinocchioP song involving Teto is just him shit talking her
No.26078
>>26069Also weird he only did it to Teto and not any of the others that everyone said would replace Miku.
No.26080
>>26078Teto has always been depicted as a wannabee vocaloid that idolizes Miku and also a trickster so I really don't think he hates her at all, it is she is just depicted as a long time rival to Miku. If he hated her he wouldn't use her so much.
No.26084
>>26069I am pretty sure it's directed at those people that think Miku is old and busted and that vocaloid is some sort of competition about who gets the most views.
No.26101
>>26082I don't think he hates Teto just for the fact that he paid for her voicebank lol