No.26598[Last 50 Posts]
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This thread is cyclical. Old replies will be removed as new posts are made. No.26621
>>26560Zundamon is in the vid because Namigroove worked on it
No.26660
Why is it that most of Dreamtonics' faceless loids are Chinese or Chinese inspired?
No.26764
>>26763Mirai Komachi is also a mascot for Namco isn't she? Though I've never seen her in any Namco products, they typically use Pacman as THE Namco mascot.
No.26776
>>26747If this is possible then anything is. Piko V6 next year, trust.
No.26777
>>26747what the fuck its real
No.26786
>>26747So Lily V6 is not out of the question
No.26788
>>26786If Internet Co listens to us, I guess. A few days ago I saw MonochroMenace and other producers wanting a new Lily voicebank so the demand definitely exists. Maybe one day Internet Co will feel generous and drop a Lily V6 announcement.
No.26870
all the voicebanks that have come to V6 so far have been obscure ones no one expected so chances are we'll get someone like gachapoid over lily.
No.26875
>>26870>GachapoidAnything but him please
No.26881
>>26875You're getting Gachapoid V6 whether you like it or not
No.26882
If Lily got a V6 no one would use it. IA V6 is a voicebank everyone wanted but look how that turned out.
No.26892
>>26891Welcome back Orange haired Komachi
No.26951
>>26924Namco Tokyo has a showcase space but it's more like an upscale Round One. Seems like a talk event with staff attending.
https://x.com/miraikomachi_PR/status/2058397594842542294 No.26952
>>26951Yeah i would've been surprised if it was a concert with how obscure Mirai Komachi is. I can't name a single original song with her.
No.26954
>>26953Wew, i'm surprised
No.27074
>>27067What even was this
No.27079
>>26747First time i prefer the redesign to the original wow
No.27083
>>27074It's one of those vtuber things but i'm not sure if there was a real person behind it or its just a 3d model with an animation
No.27089
>>27083Ive seen other videos of these things before. They sometimes have a camera that lets you see behind the display and it is robotic controlled so it can roll around. They do have actual people behind the models interacting with people. It is pretty cool.
No.27125
>>27121I wonder if you can rip this software's models and use them in MMD
No.27134
anybody got audio of the new mirai komachi?
No.27138
>>27125People imported their own MMD models onto it back when it was still moddable so its possibly doable
No.27144
>>27141It’s a statement pertaining to the allegations Tsumika Oda (WhiteCUL’s VP) came forward with, alongside the situation with 39Party* and the v6 crowdfund.
The response is bad, lots of doubling down. Answers no questions. Even Japanese users agree that cancelling the project and issuing refunds would be better than what they plan to do. Nothing has been resolved with anyone either. They’re basically beating a dead horse.
No.27145
>>27144I'm out of the loop with the WhiteCUL stuff, primarily because i only care about Red CUL
No.27153
>>27144ST Media has competition
No.27154
>>27153Not a fair comparison because ST Media just stopped talking about UNI after the lawsuit. And to this day we still don't know what will happen.
No.27161
>>27154This. To add on, ST Media's lawsuit is peanuts compared to this. ST Media's issue came down to incompetence on their part. These matters actually resulted in police involvement by comparison.
>>27145I would safely say you should keep up with this because it greatly affects CUL as well, sadly. Basically, the entire IP is left stained in ill faith because of this.
No.27162
I have been working on a write-up concerning everything related to the case from over the past year. The wiki also just recently went over the details. I was waiting on an update like this before I published my article, so I'm adding it on. I'll link it back here once it's published. It should be up within a few days unless I get called in to the clinic before then.
No.27169
>>27166Only the sillouette was available at the time, can't travel in time so shush
No.27189
>>27172At least the silhouetteloids won't be lonely now
No.27198
Yet another update on WhiteCUL's situation from Zan-shin
https://x.com/ZAN_SHIN_net/status/2059939240730055096 No.27199
>>27198So… they start shipping stuff “in stages” starting June, but you also only have until end of June to request a refund? I know literally nothing about this at all but that kinda seems like a problem
No.27203
>>27172People are saying Shun sounds like Kaito which got me thinking. Would the original VPs of the Cryptonloids realistically be able to get away with voicing other synths if they just made them one of those anonymous faceless synths?.
No.27205
>>27204What the hell that does sound like Kaito
But I doubt it is, Naoto Fuuga hasn't been seen since March.
No.27206
>>27205It likely isn't him but someone with a similar voice. I feel like he loves KAITO way too much to voice another synth.
No.27208
>>27205It sounds a little similar but it’s definitely not the same guy IMO, not as warbly. Dreamtonics has way more voices than I recall though.
No.27210
>>27203i mean its not like they own your voice so probably
No.27214
>>27203LukaSV please...
No.27215
>>27172It's really nice seeing the Koreans in the YouTube comments being so excited for the Korean VBs. Happy for them
No.27216
>>27215Its been a while since SeeU and UNI
No.27217
Do we have any French SVs yet?
No.27220
>>27206Mr.Fuuga said that he was going on a recording studio to record while carrying a kaito plushie. On that same month, he stopped posting on social media.
that "studio" might be dreamtonics.
Plus, Shun's voice description has some elements that KAITO also have
No.27221
>>27220It's Cryptonover...
No.27226
>>27220Adding more "evidence" to it:
JP Male voice with low-mid range resonance & versatile voice - Similar to KAITO V1
>name origin means elegance, natural flow>suited for theater/theatrical voices like a tokusatsu openings(just listen to this test cover, it's tone for tone with mr.fuuga's voice in the original OP song)
https://x.com/ikekaiske/status/2060113290840195223?s=20
>voice sounds EXTREMELY similar to how KAITO sounds with god-tier tuning/Naoto Fuuga's voiceShun might be KAITO's alter ego.
No.27228
>>27226Lol. Kanru really won the synth war huh.
No.27229
>>27226>Kaito cucked CryptonHoly shit
No.27230
If the Shun is Kaito theories turn out to be true it could be the biggest WTF moment in Vocaloid history. This has never happened before.
No.27231
I'm still not buying it that it's Naoto Fuuga. It'd be funny but I don't think it's him.
No.27235
>>27226It's just coincidences though, right? I highly doubt they'd release KAITO SV under a different name like this.
No.27236
>>27228he already did the moment they released teto sv
No.27237
>>27235Right now it's just a theory, a Vocaloid theory.
No.27241
Unfortunately I don't think the new SV is Kaito's voice provider
No.27247
Honestly would've expected this to happen to Miriam first, especially out of all the v1 voices too.
Even if the theory’s true, it doesn’t automatically mean trouble with Crypton. There's always been wiggle room for different takes from the same VP (Tone Rion and Nemu) or the same voice with optimizations built for different engines (Tsuina’s V6 and Una's Sugar and Spicy VBs, versus both of their SynthVs). To say nothing of countless UTAU voice providers who switch over to a different character once they're on a commercial engine.
Like >27203 asked, if it's not advertised as Kaito and it doesn't serve the same niche as Kaito (Shun being more realistic AND oriented to a specific genre), could it still even be considered Kaito from a legal/commerce standpoint? Kaito, officially, still sounds very mechanical, and I don't typically see producers push him to the absolute limits of his range like that.
The hilarity of this situation by itself makes me seriously consider getting Shun. Doesn't matter to me if he’s Kaito or not, I already like some of the other kinda-theatrical voices (Lang Chuan, Solaria, etc.) on SynthV to begin with. If anything, this just gives me inspiration to do stuff with him, and with the letter vocalists, you need all of that you can get.
No.27249
>>27220Should be important to note that his final posts were health related and it’s most likely he’s been focused on his health than posting.
He’s also still seeing frequent work in the industry. For all we know, he’s going to a recording studio for something else.
Idk about you but 2 months is a credibly short time to develop a commercial voicebank. Considering everything the teams been working on, I want to say if anything, the recordings were likely done between December and January. Not saying a team can’t make a bank in that short a time, it’s more so just the fact that there’s different standards and practices that come to mind in terms of commercial developments.
There’s a lot of other factors against the possibility of him voicing the character, but the main thing to really consider is that we have an alternative available which is nice to have.
No.27254
>Shun
>Shion
>Kaito Shion
Really gets the noggin joggin
No.27256
>>27247Ah, if only Zero G were willing to do vocal synths again
No.27258
>>27256I've ran out of hope
No.27268
>>27231Yeah this is just a vocatwt meme. All the VP info we have suggests that the faceless banks are named after their VPs.
No.27308
>>27280I’ve seen this! They were asking about language support too.
No.27493
>>27491why do you think so?
No.27494
>>27493I mean have you read the article? tl;dr is that if Oda is right then ZAN-SHIN are an incredibly sketchy company that exploits their talent.
No.27495
>>27494Omg I thought you replied to Miko, my bad
No.27527
>>27490Oh shit she's actually high quality. It's the least noisy V6 voicebank i've heard so far.
No.27537
>>27490sounds really good here but i gotta hear her actually sing to form an opinion
No.27883
>https://ariaers-assort.org/circle/ARIA sisters, flower, and Meika sisters all in one event
No.27885
>>27884No, just doujins and fan made merch pretty sure
No.27895
>>27885That's nice but damn, a flower concert could drain my wallet within seconds of being announced
No.27901
>>27268Where's you get that from? I'm curious
No.27907
>>27895I think one of the niconico events had her
No.27912
>>27490Is that the only demo available for her
No.27928
>>27924Cute. Also is it just me that noticed for some reason lyrics went from 'Mary' to 'Barry'. Maybe to show B pronunciation since I doubt that happened from a voicebank quirk.
No.27929
>>27928I doubt it was intentional. The voicebank is still in development.
No.27930
>>27929I can get V and B but M and B? Odd if it is just a case of the B from 'lamb' somehow carried over.
No.27931
>>27930Those bugs are actually kinda common with AI voicebanks, or at least DiffSinger ones.
No.27985
>>27984Mogu mogu yummy, magic coming
No.28015
>>27984Are these vtuber voicebanks popular in Japan or are they just releasing them for the hell of it? I never see anyone talk about them
No.28021
>>28015Only if the voicebank is based on someone who's already popular like Ui <- Shigure Ui and KAFU <- KAF.
No.28221
Does anybody know what THE CREATE is?
https://www.vocaloid.com/the_create/ No.28228
>>28221It's a song contest, except they're doing it as a live special like The Voice lol
No.28229
>>28228>except they're doing it as a live special like The VoiceInteresting
No.28233
>>28228That is, uh, creative. Do people get to vote their favorites at all?.
No.28359
>>28347you're right, this is actually the clearest vocaloid 6 voicebank i've heard
No.28541
I know this has been asked a lot here but when are the fan-ding vocaloids coming out? Wasn't Adachi Rei supposed to release two months ago?
No.28555
>>28541She got delayed. She’s supposed to come out sometime this month now supposedly but it was pushed back because they were behind on the backer rewards so whenever those go out, we should see sales start.
There was a new V6 update though so hopefully soon.
No.28609
>>28347Can't wait to hear Kyu kurarin with her voice
No.28612
>>28610>>28611is it me or they finally fixed the engine noise? i don't hear it at all in these demos
No.28622
>>28612Less audible but definitely still there. In some voicebanks its just harder to hear.
No.28744
>>28611This is English she just has a heavy accent
No.28745
>>28555>She’s supposed to come out sometime this month nowI get the feeling she'll release next month instead
No.28767
>>28764It's basically an HD version of the original design. I'm fine with this.
I prefer the V6 though, black and orange go well together. No.28769
>>28764Rei chan... can't wait for her V5 and V6 voicebanks. I hope the rumors are true and she releases this week.
No.28770
>>28762They only shared the design, the software details are supposed to come out later
No.28772
>>28770Hope it's not ACE again. Poor Chinaloids and VIPPERloids are stuck on that mess of an engine.
No.28778
>>28772Ace as an engine isn't that bad honestly, it's just marketed towards AIbros rather than Vocaloid otaku and that's where most of the hate comes from. And no i'm not an AIbro.
No.28788
>>28787Missed this dude. I hope one day i'm able to commission him.
No.28826
>>28769Not a rumour haha, until this most recent update June was the earliest they’d start sales. They start shipping goods next month so we might see more beyond that.
No.28832
>>28775Final V6 design is gonna be revealed soon according to Missile
No.28853
>>28848I like this one a lot more than the V5
No.29018
CFM released Miku voice notifications in Japanese and English. They're on iTunes.
https://music.apple.com/artist/piapro-characters-voices/6782804865 No.29022
Yamaha says they're working on an "early access version [of Rei] for those who have supported us". Does this mean she'll be released in EA first like Miku V6?.
No.29026
>>29018These are cute if a little too long for me
No.29051
>>29018Someone should rip these for those of us who use android or dumbphones.
No.29060
>>29018First time i hear Miku english sound this cute. Thank you v6.
No.29061
>>28764Rei didn't let the fame change her
No.29071
>>29060Is there any way to hear them without being on Apple? I wish someone would record what they sound like at least
No.29081
>>29080my condolences to eleanorbro, who i'm not sure still browses this site
No.29084
>>29080What page even is this? i don't see anything eleanor related on the dreamtonics site
No.29085
>>29080I'm honestly surprised they discontinued her. You'd think the incremental cost of hosting her download is ~$0.
No.29086
Lunai's getting a massive update soon. Mostly enhancements to DiffSinger but also full UTAU support and other stuff.
https://x.com/lunaiproject/status/2072381288259215753 No.29087
>>29085That dreamtonics hosts her files doesn't mean they own her
No.29088
>>29087I mean she was shipped as the flagship voicebank for SynthV right? Or at least treated that way during early development. I guess things might have changed from a rights perspective since they shifted gears towards the faceless banks.
No.29089
>>29088its the sv product manager
No.29090
>>29089meant to quote
>>29084 and i cant delete my post
No.29105
>>29080why did they take so long to announce this? almost everyone knew she was discontinued
No.29150
>>29080Everybody saw this coming but that doesn't make it any less disappointing
RIP Elly and also hang in there Eleanorbro.
No.29157
>>29084It’s the My Dreamtonics site/sv2 product manager. They added discontinued labels to a lot of products.
>>29105There still was no official announcement. This came from an unrelated party.
No.29167
>>29080So this is what it feels like having a loved one get unplugged after being in a coma for a long time...
>>29081I still browse irregularly, but not active as much due to IRL
>>29157>There still was no official announcement.Don't give me hope
No.29168
>>29167sorry for your loss
No.29170
>>29018Waiting for a file to drop....
No.29177
>>29167I wouldn’t call it hope as much as it’s a sign of how bad things are
No.29180
>>29170Ask smn with itunes to record them
No.29199
>>29197Was she still available post-discontinuation or something
No.29202
>>29199Sonicwire usually keeps them up until they run out of copies
No.29208
>>29199After the PFX site shutdown, Sonicwire was the last place you could get any of the PFX vocals. It was basically on a timer, the timer being when they ran out of stock.she was the very last one to completely sell out.
No.29217
>>29208Imagine being the last guy to purchase her
No.29232
>>29230I wouldn't mind if Miku laid me to rest.
No.29233
>>29227Whenever we have people in the fandom who are in their 60's, 70's. Right now Zoomers and Millennials make up the majority of Vocaloid fans, and possibly some Gen Alpha here and there.
No.29234
>>29223Miku cigarettes, Miku condoms, Miku specimen cups
No.29236
>>29234>Miku specimen cupsSurely these are for examining Miku-Miku Bacteria.
No.29241
>>29235Why is she decapitated
No.29244
There's been so much weird Miku merch released over the years that you could open a Miku museum if you wanted to and I'll be surprised if it doesn't exist already
No.29251
>>29245Looks like when you try to make an anime character in the sims
No.29252
>>29223luo tianyi has menstrual pads. its only a matter of time before we get some miku ones.
No.29259
>>26747This is the only instance where the redesign is better than the original
No.29260
>>29259Rion V4 wasn't a bad design, it just wasn't Rion
No.29285
>>29280The fact that the tuning seems to use curves instead of forcing you to hand draw it makes it seem promising already.
No.29297
>>29296I need to see Rolling Girl played on this
No.29301
>>29281Poor Ritsu. Every time he ends up in a new vocal-synth engine it turns out to be AI kuso or it becomes irrelevant like DeepVocal.
No.29302
>>29280kind of looks like OpenUTAU
No.29305
>>29285might be a preference thing but i have an easier time drawing the pitch lol. it's one of the reasons i use tunelab.
No.29308
>>29281Do they not know that this stuff alienates most of their original user base, even if its sourced ethically?
No.29313
>>29310Why is Luka doing that
No.29435
>>29432Not the kind of pop I usually listen to but Miku fits surprisingly well
No.29436
>>29432Out of all of these producers I only know Grimes and that's because she dated Elon Musk.
Not too excited for this.
No.29439
>>29432I don't know, man...
No.29441
>>29436The press release said it was one of Grimes' producers, not her, so I'm kind of confused about that
No.29442
>>29441This is the description for the attached video
>Music from:>Grimes>Odetari>slayr>XAMIYA>George Clanton>Frost Children>MOLIY
>Production from:>SatapanP>picco>jon-YAKITORY No.29443
>>29442I wonder if this implies the Western artists didn't touch Vocaloid software and the JP guys are rendering the vocals. Maybe too cynical a take though
No.29444
>>29443To me it sounds more like they wrote and possibly composed the songs but they're being produced by those three Japanese guys
No.29504
>>29499Good on them. Those kinds of tools should be a separate thing instead of being integrated into a vocal synth engine.
No.29505
>>29442nightmare blunt rotation
No.29506
>>29499thats honestly a really good response
No.29508
>>29499good, we don't need another ACE
No.29645
>>29018it's just showing me a blank page, anyone else having this issue? VPN doesn't help either
No.29646
>>29645Think you need an account because same here on PC
No.29647
>>29645>>29646oh so its not just me. i've been seeing a blank page for days now and have been wondering how people are even listening to the audios in the first place.
No.29654
>>29646>>29647dunno I tried some uhh, apple music downloaders and they all give errors. so maybe it's only accessible on mobile or something?
No.29734
>>29654I'm on mobile and have the same issue.
Though I'm on Android so maybe that's why.
No.29746
>>29744Should've gotten my man Jack White instead
No.29878
>>29876>According to VocaDB she's some kind of libertarian mascot?It doesnt say that though. It is more to do with use terms and copyrights. The mention of cryptocurrency and NFTs is just something some people in Japan jump on because the weak ¥ trying to find ways to raise funds. I have seen similar done elsewhere before for raising money. Japan tends to be slow to get trends from elsewhere so hopefully they get over NFTs.
No.29884
>>29878>hopefully they get over NFTsThey rode the NFT wave like everyone else, so don't hold your breath (just off the top of my head, Denonbu and Lain started with them in 2022). It's actually probably more invasive in creative industries than it even was in the west at this point.
No.29885
>>29882I like this art style a lot
No.29886
>>29880We're still doing this in 2026?
No.29894
>>29880I'm glad we're getting Miko on vocaloid, but it kinda irks me that basically anyone can just fund a loid to promote their ai kuso and there's no regulations
or they don't care
No.29896
>>29499imo it shouldn't have been considered in the first place but i'm glad they're scrapping it altogether. vocal synths should be vocal synths.
No.29899
>>29894has it even been funded yet? maybe it'll fail. i noticed that japan doesn't oppose aikuso/web3 as much as we do but i have seen some japanese artists who have every anti-ai/nft stances.
No.29902
>>29899>162% of the current goal:^)
No.29904
>>29899If it does its probably gonna be forgotten the same way Shiki Rowen was
No.29907
>>29904I'm probably in the minority here but i liked Rowen. I could care less about the creator's fetishes.
No.29912
>>29902Crypto shills have money to spend, the real issue is getting actual artists
No.29919
>>29878Have those ever benefited anyone at all? I've only heard horror stories
No.29976
>>29971Not confirmed yet but probably
No.29984
There's a lot of evidence suggesting ACE. At least I got her V4 banks lol
No.29985
>>29920Should've done what Gynoid did with their Flower voicebank and made her design even sluttier
No.29987
>>29984Damn that sucks. Is ACE the only Chinese AI vocalsynth?.
No.29997
>>29987Diffsinger is chinese i think but its not commercial