No.18662[View All]
This is a thread for producers to talk about music production, DAWs, plug-ins, etc. Keep it vocalsynth related.
Producer collab thread:
>>10165PV Making Thread:
>>8291Original content thread:
>>10912 No.34371
>>34360Alright, small update
The song's finished, I just need someone to fix the USTX.
Switching from CVVC to VCV fixed the low volume notes for some reason, but yeah I'm still missing those silenced parts where I can't understand what she's saying.
No.34378
>>34360If someone here has a Nico account, send Church the finished song
I'm not sure if he has been active lately but his last video is from 2025 so he's definitely still alive and using the same account at least
No.34424
>>34405Kanade
Couldn’t afford to contribute to Rei’s cf at the time
No.34428
>>34360I need this remix finished anon
No.34430
>>34428It already is kind of finished
Its only missing guitars and someone needs to fix the USTX
No.34432
>>34430the low volume seems to be tied to the normalize flag, it's all the way at 0 on those notes
for the line with the missing lyrics it honestly sounds like 広いひとりが、なそうに中で instead of whats on the screen, I'm not good with japanese but this is the best i could make sense of it
No.34473
>>34432She definitely says 真ん中で, it's the first part that's confusing and hard to hear
No.34474
>>34473It's actually "hiroi hitori be natta mannaka de", which according to AI doesn't make sense/isn't gramatically correct. If you listen to the next line after that she says "natta" again and it sounds exactly like what she says in the previous line.
No.34481
>>34475Honestly i feel like this might've been a mistake from the original creator, i'd suggest changing "be natta" to "be ya a" to match the lyrics.
No.34483
>>34481Yeah i ended up doing that
No.34497
>>34475I want to know how he made her sound like this
I wonder if it's just bad quality or some special resampler
No.34499
>>34497probably the moresampler breath flag
No.34883
I'm curious to know how many of you actually make stuff, whether its covers or originals. I noticed there seems to be this common sentiment that Vocaloid fans prefer consuming than creating but to which extent is it true?.
No.34885
>>34883Not sure if it's allowed but I think this would be best gauged with some kind of an offsite poll link so that not everyone has to individually reply to your message
No.34886
>>34883I love to do some random talkloid stuff but never tried doing song covers or originals. Still, I think it's only natural for there to be way more people who are passively enjoying the scene rather than creating stuff. If we also include fanarts and memes, number of people who contributing goes up too.
No.34911
>>34883I do covers. I can make originals, but i suffer from creative block way too much to become a real producer.
No.34913
>>34883Covers since 2016 (though my earliest one still on my channel is from late 2017) and originals since 2019, but I get creative block a lot and am normally awful at making instrumentals. Over time I think I've gotten pretty decent at tuning. I hope.
In fact I uploaded a Galaco cover a couple days ago.
No.34918
>>34883I tried making covers but I quickly realized I don't have enough free time for this. Maybe if I ever manage to switch jobs...
No.34919
>>34918I feel exactly like this except with originals and PVs but also I still want to make originals and PVs so it’s cool and great
No.34994
I have the problem of wanting to do everything so i wind up doing nothing since I just lack focus to make anything from jumping to different media and ideas. At least I am helping a few around 39chan with lyrics so it gives me some practice at least but I really cant organize ideas. I seem to have most trouble with song composition. Like I do not know how to arrange different orders without feelin overly formulaic.
No.35005
>>34994For me I'm starting to realize that I'm getting the hang of composition and producing slowly but surely, but creating enough lyrics for more than 1 verse is extremely hard for me, no matter how much I try
I have a notes app file with 4k words of lyric ideas written in it and I'm still flailing like a fish. It's a shame because I'm someone who gets very moved by the lyrics of songs and would love to be able to write something that expresses my thoughts and feelings in a clever/powerful/provocative way.
Your fortune: Bad Luck No.35158
>>35157You should still make it regardless lel
>and the MV character is insanely hotThe mv character in question is actually just the Yamai version of his UTAU voicebank. Which is nice, honestly. I prefer it when producers use the actual voicebank's design instead of an OC. Though i guess in this case it also is an OC since they're designed and voiced by Avogado.
No.35162
>>35158Oh yeah I know, I was using 'MV character' as a shorthand for 'the character that was in the MV'. I looked into the UTAU a bit after listening and I really like all of the designs for each VB. I hope they get a little bit of traction in the community from the song.
No.35164
>>35005I forgot i was doing this but I at one point started a journal where whenever i think of cool sounding short lines or obscure rhymes or word play i write them down to remember later if they find a place in anything. I out of neuroticism put this in a password protected file so hopefully if my computer lets me in i can remember the password. Might be switching to small notepad book instead. I dont quite get song structure well though both for melody and lyrics.
No.35170
>>35165I sometimes dont quite identify what is the verse, chorus or bridge. Actually I am not sure what a bridge is sulloses to be since I am less familiar with it. I know chorus is also called the hook and some.styles very easy to spot but others it almost seems not there. Some sections sound like a chorus but didfer so i dont know if that counts as the chorus or verse or bridge
No.35171
>>35170Hmmm, I think looking at song lyrics on Genius can be a little helpful for that since sometimes it'll outright label if a section is a verse or a chorus. Honestly I think verse/prechorus/chorus can be kind of hard to distinguish but for your own purposes its okay to see the verse as the 'sorta catchy part of the song that has more diversity when its repeated', and the chorus is the 'most catchy section with the least variation and most repetition'. I write prechorus if something sounds like it's not quite the chorus but doesn't sound like a verse either but to be honest I was kind of just vibing it for the sake of being able to label blocks. I wouldn't worry about bridges at all at your stage, they only come up every once in a while anyway. If it's still too hard to differentiate in some songs I'd just stick to studying songs where you can more distinctly tell the difference
No.35177
>>35157You've got something going on here tbh. I like it.
No.35180
My method of writing lyrics tends to be listening to other songs and my brain almost adlibbing lyrics that are completely different to its melody, which has served me well on numerous occasions. Unfortunately, for the past 6 months I've made some progress but ultimately been unable to formulate a concrete idea. It frustrates me deeply because in the past I used to be able to do it in less than 24 hours and still made something that sounded coherent. So, I've been sitting on a nearly-complete except the vocal track song for 6 months straight trying to pick my brain. I have at least 3 or 4 different documents with lyrics on it that I MIGHT make for that song, but scrapped a lot of my original ideas because they came off as either way too whiny in my head or were clunky sounding. I'd ideally like to make it for one of my characters I have an extremely clear idea of, and have numerous old projects about him I can reference, but repurposing old lyrics of a song I took down with an instrumental of another song I took down feels really lazy and uninspired to me, even if the work is solely my own and I did put a lot of effort into both at different points. Perhaps I can rewrite certain parts of it and sort of mishmash something as a proof of concept, then refine it later.
Ultimately, there's a lot of excellent advice in the thread right now and I'm super happy that people are giving it.
No.35185
>>35171I guess I could try that.
No.35199
>>35189Oh nvm looks like it is back up again lol
No.35211
>>35189honestly looks a bit too gimmicky for my taste. props for uniqueness but i think i'll stick with FL.
No.35236
>>35211I think it is meant to be one of those more unique music making programs since interface seemingly works different such as Metasynth and MidiNous.
No.35376
>>35368Just an opinion but something feels off. I feel the cords need tuned a little brighter to harmonize with Miku's tuning better or otherwise something needs to make them more dickswordant, less neatly formed. I could be wrong and just not getting exactly what you are going for.
No.35384
>>35376I really appreciate the feedback. I wasn't able to wring much criticism out of my friends for this one so I was partially flailing around directionlessly for it. I'm not really sure how to tune the chords brighter though or what that means (excuse my lack of musical literacy). Do you mean tweaking the chord notes themselves to be up or down an octave or just slightly adjusted or something about the instrument settings? If it helps to know what I was going for, I wanted to inspire from sasakure.UK, Jamie P When Spring Comes, A Fire That Bridges The World Devi Mccallion. Something partially stripped back sounding, desperate but lonely?
>>35369Yeah, V6 soft.
No.35391
>>35389Ahhh I see. I honestly just started in C major then pitched everything down a note, but I agree that the track doesn't sound very bright despite that being the scale I used, so maybe there's something wrong in general going on there. I'll have a play around with scales and see if it helps the song come together better, thanks.
No.35396
>>35391That was in C major is surprising I was thinking it was either C minor or D major but I have crappy earbuds in. I think i just lack enough musical knowledge to explain why it feels slightly off but not in the good way kind of off. Not bad just feels unpolished in tone choice i guess i can say. Is Miku set to the same scale and mode?
No.35397
>>35396Actually, I've been looking at the notes and it seems like it was actually in C# Dorian because of the note shift down. Kinda funny since anon suggested that even though it was already in that scale after all. I checked the MIDI and Miku is definitely in the same scale/mode. Honestly every time I try to switch it up it seems to sound kinda worse (Lydian sounded okay though but I'm kinda on the fence about it) so I'll probably try changing the key if that does any good
No.35412
>>35397This is just getting more confusing lol
No.35620
Just a reminder but music theory is completely optional
No.35627
>>35620It is but can help if your speakers suck where hearing things is difficult.