No.18225
Help each other find new music.
https://vocadb.net/Discuss VocaDB and other music cataloging websites like RYM; video, music, and file sharing platforms; rating systems and algorithm curation; and third-party song/album lists.
Thread GuideShare Songs You Like
>>23Post Your Favorite Covers
>>1387Find Music in More Languages
>>15395Ask for and Receive Recommendations
>>2235Discuss the Best Albums and EPs
>>1266Make Your Own Charts and Lists
>>2591See What's Popular
>>108Discover Hidden Gems
>>14341 and
>>1070Recent Release Threads 1
>>4 2
>>4280 3
>>10648 4
>>15985Non-Vocal-Synth Music
>>>/g/277 No.18226
Wait what's this thread for if we have a bunch of music threads already? VocaDB discussion?
No.18228
>>18226>VocaDB discussion?Yes, among other things.
No.18242
I should probably explain myself. I've been listening to songs posted in the threads linked in the OP because I wanted to find music that I really like and that I haven't heard before; I use VocaDB and RYM for the same purpose. I made this thread because I realized that there wasn't really anywhere for me to talk about this outside of the Vocaloid General.
Right now I'm relistening to the top scoring songs on VocaDB, trying to get a feel for what kinds of music that I enjoy, and figuring out where I should look for new music next.
No.18247
I'm crashing out dude. Does nobody know how to read anymore?
>>18245GO HERE
>>23 No.18250
Assuming this is the right thread to discuss this, does anybody know why the site MikuDB hasn't been touched in about two years now? It was the go-to database for Vocaloid albums for years
No.18253
>>18250They actually stopped updating it in 2024. the magical mirai album is there but that's the only 2024 release available.
No.18340
>>18225I forgot about the music threads on /j/
Utaite
>>>/j/165VocaDuo
>>>/j/192Denpa
>>>/j/143Japanese Music
>>>/j/247It's not much, but there is some good stuff there.
No.18344
>>18342>site is down>latest commit was 2 years ago>their only contact information is dickswordfugg
No.18346
>>18342Its fucking dead yeah
No.18350
>>18342Do you know how long it has been down for? I remember checking it around the same time Baumkuchen End Credits had come out, which was around December if i'm not mistaken
No.18359
>>18342Yeah it's not loading for me either
No.18442
>>18350I'm pretty sure it was working the day before yesterday, or a day before that, so Monday or Tuesday.
>>18375LocalVoid only tracks what's trending (unless I'm missing something) so that goes here
>>108Vocaloard does have an all time view count though
https://vocaloard.injpok.tokyo/en/?k=1&p=0It goes up to 300 songs.
I had just discovered Vocaloid Rankings, so I barely got to use it, but the GitHub says it pulled info from VocaDB, so it must have had more functionality than this.
No.18443
>>18442I think you could also see voicebank popularity rankings but i might be mistaking it for another site
No.18644
>>18342It's working again.
No.18651
I wonder if went down because of how many songs were coming out during Vocacolle lol
No.18673
Oh this is a great new thread. I love hub threads, help keeps things organized.
No.18856
>>18644what the hell it's down again. I'm never gonna get to use this site.
No.19023
I think VocaDB users in aggregate have pretty good taste (certainly better than total song views on video platforms) but I do find myself disagreeing with the rankings a lot. Covers tend to receive little attention, and when they do I often don't agree their placement (I prefer the original Electric Angel and Song of the Eared Robot, over Giga's version and Machine Love, respectively [though the later is technically not cover]). And while cannot expect to agree with every song/album rating, I think a major problem lies in the scoring system.
Liking a song increases its score by 2, and favoriting a song increases its score by 3, with no way to contribute a negative score. This means that popular songs that more overall users like will score higher than songs that a larger proportion of users like but that are more obscure. Albums do have star ratings, but sorting by rating average does not take the total number of ratings into account, and total score only sorts by popularity; you cannot sort by both at the same time.
Rate Your Music also suffers from similar problems, where there is a massive gulf between albums that have thousands of ratings and those with almost none. However, RYM lets users rate albums with a five star system, with a sorting algorithm that balances the star rating with the total number of ratings, so albums need a high star rating with enough total ratings to appear at the top of the list.
What I'm looking for is a user rated list of songs where the general consensus is that they are good, not just popular; problems aside, after adding the song charts, RYM more or less provides this, just not for vocal-synth music for some reason.
https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/song/all-time/g:vocaloid%2dscene/(The list is empty for me.)
No.19035
>>18344I checked the GitHub again, and it looks like the site's being worked on now, so hopefully soon it will stay up consistently. At least we know the site is definitely not dead.
No.19037
>>19023I'm a fan of their rating system but RYM has this issue where people who don't typically listen to Vocaloid will rate a Vocaloid song and it ends up with a rating under 3 as a result.
No.19453
Is there a good reason that both producers and voicebanks are in the artist category on VocaDB? I know that releases will often credit the vocalsynths that were used, but it seems incredibly weird to me to combine them together for a database.
No.19823
>>19453I agree that they should be separate
No.20321
Do any of you still use NND to discover new music? I know it was very common before everyone started uploaing on youtube but there are still songs that are exclusive to NND
No.20326
>>20321Only during Vocacolle these days. Admittedly, after a lot of the region restrictions, I slowly phased out of using it.
That said, anyone excited for Vocagathering this weekend? Seems some JP producers are joining in this time too.
No.20328
>>20321I've only ever used Niconico to watch videos that have been linked elsewhere, same with Bilibili. Admittedly, I've found some of my favorite music through YouTube recommendations, but I resent the lack of control that I had in the process.
>>20326First I'm hearing about this.
https://vocagathering.com/2026/I'm not super invested, but you could make a thread when it starts to generate interest.
No.20356
>>20321Rarely
I only use it if i found it via Vocacolle or VocaDB and the song is only available on NND
No.20365
>>20328I wish i could participate in this year's Vocagathering but it takes me like a month to finish my songs
No.20367
>>20365I'm pretty sure most people usually have something saved each year which why they're able to release them so quickly, same with Vocacolle
No.20436
>>20367It was also announced back in the fall, so there were a few months for people to prepare.
>>20328True, prob a good time to start one early since some have already started promoting their songs and have premiere's ready.
No.21323
On VocaDB, is there any way to view alternative versions of a song in the main search engine and not as a list on the original song page? The closest I can think of is to search for the song name, but the results vary by what language you use, and it doesn't show everything.