No.16389
I like Just Be Friends but it also makes me sad
No.16396
>>16388Mine is secret
No.16397
>>16396Why would your favorite song be a se- ohh that's the name of the song
No.16400
>>15492I think it's more so that the bump limit is low (400) and the generals happen to be the most active threads on /leek/ ever since the /jp/ migration happened. Because even with low PPD (right now 39chan is at its lowest PPD in a long time) these threads still manage to hit the bump limit.
No.16402
>>16400Also there has been an influx of users the last few weeks before 39chan got temporarily killed. I'm not sure where they came from, but it's likely that they came from /jp/ seeing as how IAbro ended up here as well. I'm guessing that KAFU SV being leaked here brought more people to /leek/ and then these threads started becoming more active.
No.16404
>>16400but the /jp/ migration during the hack is what made "general" threads start showing up here in the first place
before the 4chan hack we didnt have generals on /leek/
No.16407
>>16404True i had forgotten lol. Either way, i don't mind these threads existing or being as active as they are.
No.16424
>>16409It's the dramafags that are making people leave
No.16431
>>164305 and I bring IA to 6
No.16432
>>164308 and sit Ritsu on 9. I'm not gay btw.
No.16433
>>16424The /g/ossip thread hitting bump limit and twitter dramakuso being fully banned has been a blessing for this site.
No.16438
>>164303 for sure, I'm okay with Gumi and Una being brats, it's worth it
>>16436what am I looking at
No.16442
>>16441It looks like she's teasing Una on the picture
>>16440Didn't catch on I guess, her usual outfit is more iconic. I personally prefer her Dick Dastardly fit, I think she looks the best in it
No.16447
>>16444I thought you said IA stole her megpoids
No.16448
>>16447IA is as flat as Una.
No.16450
>>16449The only good kind of drama thread tbh. Also /mmd/ would probably benefit from more activity.
No.16454
>>16453Can't be bigger than A
Your fortune: Average Luck No.16457
>>16409Not really but a lot of them did migrate here during that one time when all /jp/ would talk about was Zako and during the April hack
No.16458
>>16454The A in IA
>>16456Nooooooooooooo
No.16460
Is IA's name meant to be a pun on AI + Lia's name?
No.16461
I've been thinking about how Adachi Rei is the only Vocaloid that physically exists (without counting stock images such as Tonio and Cyber Diva)
No.16463
>>16283>>16295So they just gave her a new jacket and heeled shoes....
Anyways now that adachi rei crowdfund is over and it was a massive success what yall think it will be the next surprise for this yamaha campaign?
No.16464
>>16463Isn't the next one a vtuber? Something Luci
No.16465
>>16463I like the black jacket
No.16469
>>16464Akatsuki Luci
I'm not familiar with her but it seems some Japanese people are. She's a vsinger.
No.16472
Wish we'd get Ritsu on V6
No.16482
Sometimes i'll listen to a song that's still new in my mind and when i check the upload date i'm like "huh it was that long ago?". I can't believe it's been 5 years since Lag Train.
No.16485
>>16482same but with sand planet
No.16487
>>16481Damn, she sounds good
No.16491
Producerbros what's the modern equivalent to Vocalistener? Obviously there is SV automatic tuning but I'd rather work with something that can convert my vocals into parameters that work on various vocal-synths.
No.16493
>>16485As much as I like the song I always associate with that "dark era" of Vocaloid where everyone thought Vocaloid was dying and every English song sounded like a GHOST knockoff
No.16499
>>16460No, she predates AI by almost a decade.
>>16474God I wish that were me with IA.
>>16491>SV automatic tuningI think you can just export the file from SV and then use UtaFormatrix. It's what people do, I heard.
No.16500
>>16499>she predates AI by almost a decade.AI itself predates the existence of Vocaloid. You're thinking of generative AI, which is the shiny new toy for balding boomer techbros.
No.16501
>>16493I kinda miss that era. A lot of Vocaloid's current problems stemmed by it in terms of community, but it was a lot less boring and a lot of my favorite songs came out then. I'm happy most producers that started then got their own style, even if a lot left.
No.16502
>>16501It wasn't too different from the current one tbh. Only difference is there was no SV Teto so you had MikuGumi instead, and GHOST ripoffs instead of Flavor Foley ripoffs.
No.16504
>>16482I feel weird about it too, I remember watching Lagtrain the same hour it came out
No.16506
>>16504Goodbye Sengen too
No.16508
>>16502I feel like finding fans that knew about wholoids was also a lot easier, and people were more willing to use them in the West. I feel like Utsu-P was also at his peak, among other producers active then. I do NOT miss every comment section of a Western producer turning into a GHOST in-joke though.
No.16509
>>16503It wasn't common to talk about it but that's because the AI that did exist then is not the same AI we talk about today. The concept of robots that will do things for us has been around for decades atp though. Picrel is a movie from 2001.
I do think they chose IA as a nod to Artificial Intelligence + Lia's name. Though isn't she canonically an alien?.
No.16510
>>16508Wholoids are still popular among the EN fans and producers still use them from time to time even if Teto is the cool new thing now. But yes most newgens won't explore beyond the cryptonloids, it has always been like that.
No.16512
>>16509The AI of today did exist but as a science fiction concept
There were things like GAN for image gen and Cleverbot for text gen but it was really primitive and no one used them
ChatGpt is what really changed it all
No.16513
>>16512weird to think that we have chatgpt to blame for the death of sample based voicebanks
No.16518
Can somebody identify this one IA rap song that's featured on the official site
https://ia-rebreath.com/material No.16520
>>16518I think it's unreleased, it's the same one posted on Xitter
>https://x.com/IA_Rebreath/status/2014634927569195069 No.16521
>>16520>it's unreleasedDamn. It's so good.
No.16523
>>16520i'm pretty sure this is the full song. it's for that 30s thing.
what a shitty marketing stunt honestly. what's the point of edging us with these 30 second previews.
No.16525
>>16524explains why the design looks so good
No.16528
>>16526Huh, this predates Diff-SVC
Interesting
No.16533
>>16528SynthV had stopped making standard banks by that point, too. Vocal synth devs were really early to the whole AI thing.
No.16537
>>16536ugly clothes nice hair cute voice
No.16538
>>16537Is ugly clothes a positive or a negative
No.16539
>>16516She's proud of her gumis.
>>16523I'm sure the thesis is that poeple only listen to youtube short 30s clips these days anyways, but it's just not true, at least not in my age bracket
No.16540
>>16539That can't be it. I'm literally a zoomer
early tho and the concept of listening to just 30 seconds instead of a full song sounds fucking stupid.
No.16541
>>16540Same, but the difference between mid-20s people and teenagers couldn't be bigger. Even the early zoomers who use tiktok were raised on long-form video and whole novels.. I'm getting off topic though, point I'm trying to make is that short-form video has changed culture a lot just in the past 5 years and I don't blame IA's team for trying to conform.
No.16542
>>16541Still kinda dumb imo. When I think of a 30 second song I think of something like a radio jingle not something with this level of production.
No.16543
IA is trying to be hip with the kids and attempting to appeal to a new, younger audience, don't be mean to her
No.16547
I'm pretty sure they're going to release the whole thing, just be patient. They said the 30s thing can be unfinished songs.
They also teased Arcane Idea for almost a whole year before the full version was released.
>>16543She's trying her best with IA GLOWB and TikTok, for sure. I don't know if it will ever work out though.
No.16548
>>16547I like IA GLOWB, but I like almost everything KIRA makes. Does V6 have multilanguage? because it'd be nice to see the project return but with V6 instead of the english CEVIO voicebank.
No.16550
>>16548V6 has multi language by default, so everyone with a V6 can sing in Japanese, English and Chinese no matter what, but having it supported as a base language is a significant improvement. IA does not have an English base unfortunately. From the covers I've seen, her English doesn't seem that good, but maybe someone could make it work.
No.16551
>>16518>>16520IA V6's demos have been amazing so far
No.16556
>>16554idk people seem to prefer the e-capsule sonika design over the chinese and american ones
No.16560
>>16491Audio to MIDI. SynthV comes with it, I believe there’s an OpenUTAU plugin, there’s also this
https://github.com/openvpi/SOME (which I believe is used in the OpenUTAU plugin) and I think I’ve even seen some say they use this (
https://basicpitch.spotify.com/.)
I use this to extract acapellas:
https://ultimatevocalremover.com/You could also modify Vocalochanger output (audio, unfortunately) with VocalShifter.
No.16563
>>16562That's her CeVIO though
No.16564
>>16563That's the Japanese one right? I don't remember the English one having such a heavy accent
No.16565
>>16562All these covers of this song have made me realize that I don't actually hate this song but hate how EN Miku sounds because so far I haven't heard a single cover of this that I've disliked.
No.16566
>>16564I think so but I am not sure either, I don't listen to her CeVIO much.
No.16567
I want more R906 IA songs
No.16568
>>16436I thought it had collapsed but it seems like that was when it was being made. It's finished now.
The location is here:
https://x.com/hvc_setsuzou/status/2017928341647720824 No.16573
>>16572Your ass is showing, IA
No.16587
>>16560>Audio to MIDIConsidering getting SV Flat just for this. Is it worth it?.
No.16590
>>16578"o-neh", just like IA is "ee-ah"
No.16601
>>16517I get the feeling that this artist really loves IA
No.16604
>>16601yep. and ONE, and HIPPI.
No.16609
>>16608I don't mind IA boobs
No.16613
I like all my vocaroidos with off model proportions and in suggestive if not explicitly sexual poses. Bring back the /otn/ board and the boobieloids thread.
No.16616
>>16613despite how it was a bit inactive, i do miss /otn/
some of you fags had good taste, and it got removed before i could ever do a futa thread which i still cry myself to sleep over
No.16618
>>16516She wants to be used
>>16536I dig the hairstyle
>>16553I really like her Miku Expo 2024 Europe design
No.16624
>>16622Im surprised the Teto coffee song didn't make it
No.16630
>>16590I've always pronounced it as "ee-yah" because that's how the Japanese pronounce it but in ONE's case i thought it was pronounced like the number
No.16636
i miss mikufan.com
No.16640
>>16627never heard this before
No.16641
>>16622I was going to say that it's shocking to see a chart without a Flavor Foley song and then i saw it
No.16656
>>16622nice to see inabakumori on top after so many years
No.16662
>>16622Pretty good for the first month
No.16663
>>16444Yes gumi we've seen them
No.16669
Seen speculation that Gakupo is getting a new voicebank, can anyone confirm?
No.16672
>>16668Based
>>16669If you're referring to that one xitter vaguepost then it's likely not. Gakupo would rather die than make a new voicebank.
No.16674
>>16578It's pronounced "wan"
No.16679
>>16678Why did they give her a huge nose
No.16680
>>16549I feel like most voice providers are aware of what gets made with their voicebank
No.16686
>>16678Is this the actual design they went with or just the design they use for the demo?
No.16687
>>16686probably just for the EA bank
No.16697
>>16578It's actually pronounced "oie" because the И in OИE is a Cyrillic I.
No.16700
>>16668I've probably seen more Teto covers of his stuff than any other P
>>16679It'd be really funny if her final design had a big nose too
>>16697oui oui
No.16716
>>16622Deserved first spot
Looping the Rooms was the best song this January
No.16717
>>16710hopefully the song that breaks the mesmerizer curse because that single song somehow managed to overshadow his entire discography
No.16718
>>16717also IA feature is cool. please give us more IA songs thank you.
No.16721
>>16719I thought those were her megpoids but it's just IA's shoulder
No.16724
>>16722Peak silhouetteloid performance
>>16710Im hyped for this
No.16733
>>16725Western fandom finally getting their own "everyone uses Miku for the views"
No.16734
I can't blame the WVF for using Teto so much, she's the best English voicebank they've had since GUMI's EN voicebank during the V3 era.
No.16736
>>16669>>16672It's Shiki Rowen
No.16776
>>16725would also help if they promoted fan merch. I'd be happy to help more obscure UTAUs get some recognition with 3D models but people are just there to performatively shitpost and move on.
No.16779
>>16776i mean, making merch is expensive and even if it existed you can't really expect people to buy it when the utau in question has a small / non-existent fanbase
No.16780
>>16776>I'd be happy to help more obscure UTAUs get some recognition with 3D modelspost yer models
No.16788
Does anybody have this old Vocaloid doujin where Miku's producer kills himself and then Miku opens the door and finds him hanging?
No.16791
>>16790I'll go with 4 just because Tensei Ringo girl is hot
No.16792
>>167901 for obvious reason
No.16793
>>16788What
…..Was it a nsfw doujin? Like do you happen to remember anything else from it….????
No.16794
>>16791Is 10 gonna be smoking the whole time?
No.16796
>>16788Unfortunately I know what you're talking about. Thanks for making me look up "Hatsune Miku owner suicide"
https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1gwlz0d/disc_the_story_of_miku_her_master_by_dezidezi_ro/ No.16797
>>16790I'd rather sit next to Secret Himitsu Miku, but on the picture 6 for sure
No.16803
>>16798How is this only on Soundcloud, is IA becoming a Soundcloud rapper
No.16804
>>16803Heard they call her Lil IA now
No.16815
>>16798I'm disappointed that even the full version is still so short but eh at least the beat is pretty good
No.16881
>>16869Asunoyozora is only two thirds of the way there
No.16886
>>16881I am willing to bet Rokuchounen would be over 100M if we count the number of times it was played on rhythm games, but alas, those don't count. Kind of like how everyone knows Senbonzakura yet that is not even 100M
Wagakki Band took all the views.
No.16891
>>16869Start praying for a new hit using IA:R
No.16906
Anyone else noticed all the IAxLen fanart that's been popping up recently? Where did that come from?
No.16943
>>16906likely some guy commissioning/requesting it
No.16957
>>16796You have no idea how satisfying that ending felt. I'm never killing myself bros, I gotta live for Miku.
No.16965
>>16964Huh nevermind i was able to find it on the internet archive
https://archive.org/details/hachunemikusever0001ontaHad no idea these short Hachune comics existed
No.16986
>>16958He left Vocaloid? So he became like Hachi I think?
No.16988
>>16943It's an uncommon pairing but they sound nice together
No.17063
>>17056The first note to Runaway
No.17067
>>16869We'll get there IAbro
No.17199
>>17066VocaDB tags her as "discontinued voicebank" so yeah she is likely discontinued
https://vocadb.net/Ar/156534 No.17242
I admittedly didn't care much for the new LOL song but it's funny how he made it just to watch the world burn, it's genius
No.17246
>>17244I feel like almost everyone if not everyone is aware of Vocaloid in Japan even if they don't listen to it.
No.17249
>>17248I think it's because the remix uses Vocalochanger so they had to lower the pitch of the song so the reference singer could hit the notes. Also the piano solo in the original is just better.
No.17250
>>17243Neru, Sakine and two Hakus
Safe to say he's a fan of the fanloids
No.17251
>>17246I would assume that Miku over there is a phenomenon like Spiderman where even if you've never consumed anything related to Spiderman you still know the character.
No.17253
>>17244She thinks she's part of the team
No.17257
>>17253She wants to be friends with the funny 2hu people
No.17258
>>17243Its not in the video but he has a Hachune too
No.17269
>>17242Its been funny seeing people recognize LOL from Leviteto, and now Ohho Love, because i've been following the guy since he was a NSFW artist, or at least a suggestive artist since i don't think he has ever drawn actual nudity or even sex
Was a bit surprised when i found out that he was a producer
No.17270
>>17265I prefer her V3 design
Its too iconic at this point
No.17271
>>16850I'm surprised no one has ever thought of using her for shoegaze
No.17277
>>16409Not everyone is, but some charts i've seen on Kissu do point out that the board's losing activity. If i had to guess most of the anons from /jp/ went to Kissu. The Vocagen anons are lucky that 39chan exists so they have a place to discuss their niche but people from the other generals are not as lucky so I'm not sure where they went if they've left the site.
No.17288
>>17269I knew him before that song too, lol
No.17298
>>17242Now i'm really curious how this ended up pissing off the entirety of China. I expected westerners to be the ones to make fuss about it on Twitter. But it turns out it ended up angering the Chinese?.
No.17301
>>17300Threads has users?
No.17302
>>17300Forgot to mention but there's also a Bilibili reprint that's definitely not helping either.
>>17301Believe or not, yes. There's a surprisingly high number of users on certain circles.
No.17311
>>17265>>17270I love Rocks because of how simple it is for an offshoot design. She simply loses her outer shirt and gets some pink highlights. It's iconic because her original is iconic.
No.17313
>>17251If it was Miku I can believe it but this is IA we're talking about
>>17299GumIA will be the next pairing if the 32ki x Atena collab blows up
No.17323
>>17313It'd be disappointing if it didn't
No.17338
>>17243>Mike is a NerubroWtf i love Linkin Park even more now
No.17341
>>17300Look bro I have nothing against the producer (LOL) but I really hate how easy it is to bait this fandom. You can just make a song about Yuki singing about dick and in one day everybody will be talking about it because bad publicity is still publicity. THAT song was clearly made to generate controversy and it worked, so now it has 103,413 views.
There are so many other great producers out there struggling to get even 300 views.
No.17342
>>17341I honestly can't even blame LOL. He knew what he was doing and everything went as he planned. Vocaloid fans are really just that predictable.
No.17343
>>17342>>17341The songs not even good or even somewhat catchy like mimukauwa or zako. Goldfish are smarter than vocatwt fans I swear. Bit of a shame seeing that china has these sorts of people though, but its inevitable given that there's an unironic billion of em
No.17344
>>17343It really feels like modern Vocaloid fans (not just Vocatwt) are the textbook definition of hate-watchers. I don't understand why they don't put the same amount of effort into blowing up songs they actually like, but that's assuming they even look for anything beyond what's currently popular with the Youtube algorithm. I guess that's why i like /rvr/ threads so much, there's always new, interesting stuff there and it's curated by people instead of machines.
No.17345
>>17341In theory, this is why the TOS exists... Most Vocaloid companies have the ability to DMCA you if you give their products too much bad publicity. Who knows if that will actually happen though.
No.17346
>>17345As far as I know the song doesn't break TOS but even if it did, when was the last time a song was taken down due to TOS?
No.17347
>>17346Dunno for sure since that usually happens in Japan. There was some song mocking Shinzo Abe's death a few years ago that got mass reported.
The TOS can apply to any sort of bad publicity, though. Like the time Crypton (seemingly) warned Akihiko Kondo over Twitter discourse.
No.17351
>>17347I wonder if that's why that one Oliver song, "Gay Sex", was taken down a few years ago. Or maybe people just mass reported it on Youtube.
No.17354
Now that Zaako is a year old it’s insane in hindsight how that song out of all things was the catalyst. It was so tame but the word “hentai” set off so many people
No.17355
>>17354Zaako worsened the situation but imo it started with Rabbit Hole
No.17358
>>17355I mean more as in sexual content. The way people talked about it you think it would’ve been the most degenerate shit ever but it’s just a Nagatoro-styled song.
No.17359
>>17355I'll never forget the jp vocatwt post that was like "going from old deco songs to this is like watching someone dick down your high school sweetheart"
No.17360
>>17358I think that stems from various factors such as Channel being the animator of ZAKO and having previously animated a suggestive MV (Bouncy animation = Sexual), foreigners not understanding the "mesugaki" archetype too well and thinking it's inherently sexual, the bed creaking sample (which he has used before but people are hearing it in a different context here), the use of Kaai Yuki, etc. It was not meant as a creepy/disgusting/shock song but people are quick to overreact.
No.17361
>>17360also the "fish penis"
No.17362
>>17300Meh, i didn't even listen to it. I don't like songs that are made to bait people into giving it views. Getting popular off of controversial songs is a double edged sword because while you get popular people will always remember you as "the guy who made that song".
No.17363
>>17341I feel like the community itself also doesn't do much to promote small producers. There's some rare instances where some big western producer will say they liked a song from a small producer and it might get a bit of traction but again, it's rare.
No.17366
>>17363These days it feels like it's harder for human recommendations to matter in the first place, now that everyone relies on algorithms
No.17367
>>17366VocaDB and /rvr/ exist
No.17369
>>17355I could agree with this. That channel animation really changed the game. Even paved the way for the Mesmerizer era… I’m not a huge fan, but I find it hard to hate just since jt got so many people engaged.
>>17359Lol
No.17371
>>17367They're good, but I don't think they tend to have a big impact on how well a song does. Unless it's niche vocalost stuff.
No.17372
>>17371Yeah i read your comment wrong, i thought you were saying that there's no human curated song recs anymore.
No.17376
>>17374I don't even bother with shorts most of the time. MMD users post original content there sometimes, but that's pretty much it.
No.17379
>>17374I’m still surprised Yummy Yummy High hasn’t been age restricted on YouTube yet. Also love how this person is trying to act moral yet they’re indirectly exposing children to it since shorts is their target audience. Anything for clicks
No.17380
>>17360I know that’s not what you’re implying but the thought of Kafueine being sexual because of the bed spring sample is hilarious
No.17382
>>17381?? no it isn't? do you have a source for that?
No.17386
>>17382I mean that bit is a nico comment section. More specifically it's about owata's shitty ex-mutual, from what he said later.
http://garunan.sblo.jp/article/186573447.html No.17391
>>17386oh damn, i haven't seen this before, thank you anon. my apologies
No.17507
>>17366>>17367I feel like Youtube actually recommends some really low viewcount videos, atleast to me, so it's not all bad
>>17370I really like his artstyle too, it feels like trying to imitate him has been in the zeitgeist for a while now
>>17503SO looking forward to this
No.17518
>>17507i feel the same way. i get a lot of newbies, although all of their works, well.. are crap! well, they're called beginners for a reason
No.17519
>>17516Hey, show some respect! They all used to hold the second place by Miku's side.
No.17539
>>17363VocaDB changed my life. I love listening to beautiful wholoid songs with ≈1000 views while everyone else claims “there’s no good Vocaloid music anymore”
No.17543
>>17539Vocadb is the greatest thing to have come out of the Vocaloid community
No.17549
>>17548You can't just leak the V7 design like that
No.17550
>>17363There's many reasons small producers don't gain traction, but from what I've seen it's typically either not appealing to the algorithm (using a wholoid, still image with text, etc), or the producer got blackballed before they got their foot in the door. Western producers in particular talk a lot about who does what, especially in private.
>>17539I love doing this. I see a low view song and usually get the urge to check it out, especially if it's not SynthV.
No.17551
>>17550I'm a producer who's friends with a couple western producers (albeit smaller ones). I'd say i'm way too irrelevant for big producers to even know my name, let alone be gossiped about. I could only really see the fact that i use this site being used against me, but even that is a stretch considering it's a lot tamer than vocatwt (slurs are banned lol) and people like Smith Hioka use it.
Unless you've done something controversial like what LOL did recently, I highly doubt the WVF will want your head on a stick. Don't scare the newbies.
No.17557
>>17551I'm speaking from experience, but I can also say the big producers forgave me awhile ago (not many of the other small ones from 2018-2022 though). I can't say the same for many others, but generally as long as you aren't openly professing to have controversial opinions or working with people who have a negative rep you're usually good. There's a bit of a stalking problem, though, often between small producers or a small producer towards a bigger producer. And its often kept under wraps until someone has a personal experience.
No.17558
>>17557I recall it being like that in the early to mid 2010s but i assumed things had changed huh
No.17559
>>17558Unfortunately, stalking and grudges do very much still happen, often to a more extreme extent than they used to, even though incidents are definitely rarer and most people probably don't have to worry if they keep to themselves.
No.17560
>>17559Mayubro here. I honestly just see myself as a guy who makes music. I'm not chasing fame or success. I just make the kind of music i feel like this space lacks, and therefore, I end up making the type of music I would like to listen to. If i end up befriending some talented producers that's cool. If not it's not the end of the world. I've always kept my personal stuff and my producer stuff completely separate, because at the end of the day, as a producer I don't want to be seen as more than that: just a guy who makes music.
Also in case you're wondering i'm not a big producer myself.
No.17561
>>17560Basically what i'm trying to say here is that i'm fine being a complete nobody
No.17562
>>17560Historically speaking that's the absolute best way to go about it. Producers whose primary focus is fame tend to burn out hard and quit once the frustration hits its peak. Producers who don't separate their identity will often eventually get pushback even if harmless OR will get parasocial fans much faster than they would otherwise. That said, I don't think it's necessary to separate the two if the risks are understood. I'm looking forward to hearing what you make if you post it here!
No.17563
>>17562The first few songs i released a couple years ago were admittedly an attempt to create the next big hit (and to some extent, you could say that they were) but i realized that i was basically making music for others instead of myself. Now my songs barely get any views but that's fine, i've got a small loyal fanbase and i finally like my own music.
>I'm looking forward to hearing what you make if you post it here!I might. If i do, i don't think you're gonna know that it's me, though.
No.17564
>>17563Is this Meaty or the other guy?
No.17566
>>17560I am rooting for you, Mayubro!
>>17563>If i do, i don't think you're gonna know that it's me, though.Won't we know if you use her a lot, though?
No.17567
>>17566Who said I'll be using Mayu
No.17568
>>17567But I thought you like her?
No.17570
>>17560Mayubro is right, making music you don't like will only harm you and your fanbase in the long run. You'll want to switch your style up and your fanbase will be disappointed when you do so.
I am friends with some of the big (western) producers and can confirm that this happened to them. No.17571
>>17569So then why won't you use her?
No.17572
>>17570I find it mildly amusing how a lot of people here seem to have connections with the "big producers".
No.17573
>>17571Don't worry i will, but don't expect a song in Japanese
i can't Japanese No.17574
>>17572People over 18 are the elites of the vocaloid world
No.17575
>>17574To be honest with you i wouldn't expect the big vocaloid producers to hang out with anyone under 18 unless it was for malicious purposes
No.17576
>>17575I was gonna say "didn't this happen with Machina Mori" but then I realized I'm old as fuck and people born in 2006 are adults now
No.17577
>>17576Wait until you find out that people who were born when Meltdown came out are adults now. Hell, there's probably some even browsing this site.
No.17582
>>17572In my case I know people who have worked closely with them, and with the exception of a retired Western producer have mostly only had brief (usually negative until recently) interactions with bigger ones. Team 6x111 is very aware of my existence, though to my knowledge none are upset with me anymore
No.17585
>>17572It's not that surprising honestly. People tend to take advantage of the anonimity of IBs to talk about shit they normally wouldn't
like whoever leaked KAFU SV here. There was an anon here who allegedly worked at Vocatone or at least had ties to them but you can't really prove that stuff so easily so some things you gotta take with a grain of salt.
No.17587
>>17572My dad works at Crypton. Luka V6 soon.
No.17594
>>17587Ask him for KAITO V6 as well please!
No.17599
>>17558 As someone who’s had experienced the worst Vocatwt has to offer, I can verify what
>>17557 >>17559 are saying. It’s a huge problem that even if you call it to attention, people are fsr more likely to side with the people giving you problems. I still experience stalking and harassment to this day, despite my own experiences going on for years and having not only addressed things multiple times but also changing.
It is extremely discouraging. I can only really hope for newer producers it gets better. I won’t air all my laundry here, I don’t think y’all need a trauma dump. What I will say is even if you run into these problems, if you keep going and push forward you will still get through. But maybe only use Twitter for promotion purposes for your own sanity lol
No.17606
>>17599That’s really unfortunate and only stagnates the English speaking VocaP community. I wonder if small following Japanese VocaP have a similar issue as well?
No.17608
>>17599We've had the same experience, then. I have one very dedicated stalker right now because I said that I liked their work. Their response was to falsely accuse me of several things, some far more severe than others, while harassing one of my friends even worse than me. They never said my name publicly despite the vaguepost so I'm gonna take a risk and not address it unless they make a Google Doc or something like they did to two of the biggest Western producers. I'm not sure if saying who I am is a good idea, but I will say I'm a Mikibro whose reputation proceeds me. I did a lot of stupid shit as a teenager, however I've long since mellowed out. 39chan is sort of like a safe haven free from drama and people who want nothing more than to drag people they dislike down. TD, your posts here have always been great and I like seeing you around if it's any sort of solace
No.17615
>>17608I'm glad to hear that you enjoy it, and I'm really sorry you're going through this right now. It definitely sucks ass. In time, it'll hopefully cool off. I like it here on 39chan as well. Whether I decide to use my trip code or be anonymous, I always enjoy the conversations or just reading the threads on here. It's a very welcoming part of the community.
No.17617
>>17613We got Silly Terror earlier this year if that counts.
No.17620
>>17617Well ok you got me, I meant excluding the demos
No.17621
>>17613>>17617Silly Terror is a great song, I like it a lot
No.17625
>>17620Best to wait another month or two. It's normal for launch songs to be filled with commissions nowadays
No.17632
>>17631You're allowed to call it one in 2032
No.17675
>>17631>released October 8, 2022UTAU sounds old, SynthV sounds new. Heat Abnormal feels older than it actually is for that reason, or at least it does to me. Call it an instant classic I guess.
No.17676
>>17675It's not that it sounds old. It's a great song lyrically, musically and I feel like it has aged incredibly well compared to a lot of songs from that period. It's the closest thing to a modern "Meltdown", except I like Meltdown a lot better.
No.17678
>>17675It's hard for me to associate Rei with "old" just for the fact that she came out like 5 years ago and is extremely popular now
No.17682
>>17676>>17678Oh I'm not disputing its quality, Heat Abnormal is an amazing song. The word I should have said is "timeless"; for a piece of art to still be culturally relevant outside of the context in which it was made is to be a classic; classics are by definition out of their original time. Adachi Rei is relatively new as far as vocal-synths go, but because of how her voice samples were created via additive synthesis, a very old technology when compared to generative AI, she feels out of time, like she's always been there somehow, waiting to be discovered. What I'm trying to say here is that I strongly believe that there are subjective qualities other than "old" and "good" that constitute something being
feeling like a classic, and that timelessness is one of them.
No.17786
>>17599Twitter is useless for anything else
No.17787
>>17786It's alright for news
No.17788
>>17787I'd argue it's good for following jp and kr artists too, I just wanna see pretty art on my timeline and twt does that for me, its a pain to manage the algo tho
No.17790
>>17788I use it almost exclusively for Voca synth news, following artists and following new releases. That being said though, you'll always be fighting with the algorithm.
No.17813
>>17608WVF scares me sometimes honestly. I've seen so much P-bashing there. And if someone decides that you suck, everybody suddenly thinks that you suck.
No.17818
>>17813people don't realise that it's okay to like something that their friend/mutual dislikes. it doesn't mean they're less of a friend
No.17819
>>17818unless said thing is zaako lol
No.17820
>>17631SHINDA HENSUU DE KURIKAESU
No.17885
>>17813People will also hold onto things you did many years ago even if the difference is night and day between who you were then and who you are now, and a lot of producers in the community are very two-faced. Popularity isn't a 'judge' on who's moral or not, but I notice that problem is far worse in the WVF among smaller producers. They're more likely to shittalk and actively try to drag down other small producers because they said the wrong thing 5 years ago or made a song that the other party hates. I refuse to set foot in most WVF spaces because the chance of me accidentally causing a problem just by being present makes me very uncomfortable. I've heard my stalker infiltrated a space I was very interested in joining so I'm giving it a wide berth, for example. Another thing I hate is that if you have a negative reputation, no matter why, people will refuse to give you any advice on improving your craft ever. I got advice for the first time in years in 2023, when I've been using Vocaloid since 2016. If they're even suspected of speaking to you, they can be attacked for it and avoided by association, and I don't think that's right.
It's been years since I've actively engaged with the Japanese community, but it was far calmer and the people in it were much nicer. I refuse to make a Twitter again or I'd engage either exclusively or mostly with them.
No.17887
>>16725This is true, I released a terrible Teto song and it got 1.2K views in a few days. Scared me so much I privated it
Also, I just found out from the captcha that chis-a's name isn't chris-a. My life's a lie
No.17894
>>17887I think people will listen to anything that has Teto's name attached to it regardless of the quality because the Youtube algo pushes her hard. I'm a producer too and I've made a couple Teto songs that weren't exactly amazing yet they did incredibly well compared to everything else I've made.
No.17897
>>17887I might make the song I'm working on use Teto but the two bigger spots aren't gonna be her, I think Teto actually fits the song but forcing new fans to hear other Vocaloids is also nice. It's a trio, don't know what I'll do for the deep male vocal but probably either Liam, Big Al, or Kevin. The other vocal is Nekomura Iroha.
...Then the next song in the series I have more or less done asides from the PV will use Miki, Lily, and probably Yohioloid. Lily gets a super small part though just because I couldn't find a way to make her more prevalent.
No.17898
>>17897Big AL, he's great but barely relevant these days
No.17905
>>17898I think that'll work out since I plan to already use SV1 for Teto in order to manually tune, therefore meaning I'll be rendering in 3 separate programs which I think is really cool when people do that. I also found an old spreadsheet I made for a bunch of my characters 5 years ago and I explicitly put that I saw that one as Big Al, so I'm pretty excited to get the ball rolling on it.
No.17925
>>17894Not that I dislike Teto being popular (though not to this degree where there is too many outsiders starting to try to steamroll and astroturf the community) but YouTube's algorithm pisses me off. If you look at related videos for some Vocaloid or AMVs or visual artists (especially animators) or Vtubers etc and so on related stuff you get all this dumb outrage culture garbage in recommended videos because the algorithm is all about making people respond and stay on long as possible and arguing online is one of the best ways to do that so this is why the algorithm has a tendency to this and why it sometimes gets all sorts of videos taken down because it tries to draw in the people who watch them then report them instead of just downvoting it or saying to not recommend the channel.
What would it take to get more cyber-persecuted interest communities and personalities to move to Odysee or make a PeerTube instance with a bunch of different interests but some likmindedness so it wont suck like all other instances that go unused from so little videos on them. Either case to get away from the antifun trend that YouTube, X/Twitter and TikTok algorithms created so there can be more creative freedom? Niconico and Bilibili both seem to have low video resolution so they're not that great of choices unless that is just some technical issue I have.
Okay sorry, little rant over. I hope I made sense. I have not slept much.
No.17926
>>16500>AI itself predates the existence of Vocaloid. You're thinking of generative AI, which is the shiny new toy for balding boomer techbros.Ironically it's not AI either. It's actually machine learning. AI is just the marketing term used.
>>17682>additive synthesisI didn't know it had a name for that. I'd have to look into it more since I didn't fully understand every step that was used to make Rei's voice when I had watched Missile39's video on the process.
>>16523>what a shitty marketing stunt honestly. what's the point of edging us with these 30 second previews.Previews especially using shorts are used to game the algorithm by having frequent uploads and views among other reasons it helps.
No.17936
>>17926Damn i hate youtube shorts
No.17947
Synthv autotuning is EVIL
No.17955
>>17947But someone can always go against the auto tuning selectively couldn't they? I havent gotten to using it so im not sure what it's like.
No.17972
>>16710>GumIA will be the next pairing if the 32ki x Atena collab blows upMikuteto jumpscare
https://x.com/i/status/2022989893081911326 No.17974
>>17972Cute school friends singing together, but where is the full version?
No.17976
>>17974Wait for vocacolle (3-4 days)
No.17979
>>17972oh they premiered this at tetosonic of all places?
No.17990
>>17976Tsui ni hajimarimashita
VOCACOLLE desu!!
No.18024
Candle Queen got removed off Youtube for whatever reason
No.18025
>>18024Didn't Ghost return a few days ago? Wtf
No.18026
>>18025Yeah, likely not a coincidence
No.18029
>>18024GHOST chose to delete it. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say they were having a personal moment again. This is not new behavior for them and is usually the result of them being distressed about something.
No.18031
It's already archived anyway
No.18032
>>18024Not surprising sadly
No.18058
>>18024I mean... it is a GHOST song after all
No.18065
Why do people delete their own songs anyway?
No.18066
>>18065They hate it, too personal, they were pressured or forced to by someone else or they don't like the attention.
No.18104
>>18065The primary reason is usually harassment or disliking it but the former seems more common. I think Candle Queen was deleted because Ghost and Lauren hate each other now.
No.18252
>>18251Circrush was godlike, i miss that duo but i understand why they broke up. I wonder if they're still on bad terms to this day.
No.18254
>>18251I remember discovering FOOLISH in the recommended under that song when watching YouTube back in the day. Kinda funny looking back.
No.18258
>>18251I miss the duo but now that both of them are retired it hurts even more
No.18262
>>18258Only Circus is retired. Crusher still makes music but mostly uses her real vocals now instead of Vocaloid.
No.18308
>>18251This song is in my top 5 of all time for sure
No.18310
>>18308Me again, just remembered
>>18251The song also got a very brief shoutout in Better Off Worse just a few years ago so CircusP still acknowledges it atleast
No.18805
Rule 1 of the fight club, to that guy on /jp/
No.18825
>>18823Every time i go there I'm thankful for this site because dear fucking god, every thread since 2024 has been constant dramafagging and discussion of literally anything but Vocaloid. Kissubros were right.
No.18826
>>18825Shit, forgot to sage
No.18841
>>18840Not that anon but I'm not gonna leave 4chan until it shuts down. The /jp/ threads are indeed unreadable though. But i just stopped using that board.
No.18842
>>18840It's ok, I'll be that one rambling old man in your neighborhood.
No.18846
To Anons/Mikudayos complaining about the /jp/ thread: when was the last time you posted something effortful there?
If you think there are no good posts there, it implies you also don't post anything good there.
No.18848
>>18846The last time I effortposted was before the hack last April. Since then I’ve been posting here instead. It’s much better and I rarely go back.
Either way, in the absence of moderation, an increase in non-shit posts won’t fix a shit thread.
No.18853
>>18846Why would complaining about how bad the thread on /jp/ is mean that I have a responsibility to fix it? I'd rather just post here.
No.18866
>>18846I try to post music whenever i find something interesting but it gets flooded with /pol/shit immediately. If I'm in a Vocaloid thread I'm there to talk about the music and the characters not if (insert producer here) takes it up the ass.
No.18914
>>18846I have not been on /jp/ since the Tetofag incident last year. The vocaloid threads were good a couple years ago but after 2024 every new thread devolves into: A) people falling for obvious bait, B) anons shitting on popular producers/songs, C) anons discussing what's between (insert western producer)'s legs or D) all of them, instead of actually talking about the music.
/a/ is okayish, and I still a few altchans like Wap.
No.18925
>>18846I'm not a /jp/ user
No.18928
>>18855What if /jp/ doesn't want to be fixed?
No.18934
>>18846stopped browsing /jp/ and 4chan in general shortly after i found 39chan. to me it's not worth fixing if there's an alt better than it in every way
No.18935
I get that nu-jaypee sucks but can we not turn this into the /jp/ complaints thread
No.18949
>>18928We make it happen regardless, hence the pic
No.19384
Why are all Vocaloid character items food/drinks except for Lily? Are bees edible according to her? Even Luka has tuna as a character item despite Tako Luka being more popular
No.19400
>>19384>Even Luka has tuna as a character item despite Tako Luka being more popularI mean... you can technically eat octopuses too, you ever see Oldboy?
No.19415
>>19385Fuck I totally forgot about her. Rin is the yellow one to me
>>19400I don't know. I would feel bad if I had to eat Tako Luka
No.19419
>>19415Wrong, the yellow one is obviously
Lily No.19454
Apparently sohbana made a reddit AMA/QnA
If you're any interested in asking the guy some questions or like his songs, then go and ask something!
https://www.reddit.com/user/Sohbanasick/hopefully it's not just filled with a bunch of bot accounts asking him random ai-generated bullshit
No.19562
>>19561>MonitoringYou're a hikikomori schizo and think your friend is stalking you and wants to rape you
>Monitoring (Best friend remix)What's actually happening
No.19650
>>19563Because when you open the door it triggers your schizo episodes so you think she's there to rape you.
No.19951
/jp/ dieded
No.20302
>>20300Do only americans get this? because i don't see it. Not on PC and not on mobile.
No.20769
>>17587This Anon wasn't lying wtf. I think we're actually getting Luka V6
No.20771
>>20769Announcement will be in May
No.21070
RIP short lived new general thread I guess
No.22674
Apparently tetofag is back
No.22675
>>20300I'm pissed at Google for not doing this in my country
No.28800
Now that Mesmerizer is only 10k views away from becoming the most viewed song on youtube, is the Mesmerizer and Mikuteto duo the "Smells like teen spirit" and "Nirvana" of vocaloid scene? That It unintentionally became so popular that it shifted the style of the genre. Although other songs started this style shift before Mesmerizer, Mesmerizer feels like a scapegoat for the backlash. Nirvana was loved by newcomers and younger people, but hated by oldheads and passionate fans of the genre. It also spawned new artists who tried to replicate its feeling, which only angered the "true fans" even more.
Although we've had other monumental moments with Wowaka and kagerou project, this one feels worse. Maybe i was too young but i don't remember seeing this much hate directed at a genre shift before