No.1586
>>1585literally an "ez views and money glitch" for producers
i want miku-luka slop back
No.1587
I liked Mesmerizer and don't mind Miku/Teto duets for the most part but i do think they're getting repetitive recently. It's like everybody is trying to make their own Mesmerizer. Odochina was good though.
No.1704
The Western side of the vocaloid finally got out of the GHOST copycat phase while the Japanese side is now stuck in its 32ki copycat phase.
No.1707
Some of my all time favourite songs have been duets so I'm pretty happy!
It'd be lovely if something like Cendrillion or Paper Plane came out using Miku and Teto though, I'm not the biggest fan of Mesmerizer
No.1746
>>1586i wouldn't call them "slop", they're well produced most of the time, but they are absolutely using miku/teto for the views because a lot of these songs could easily use gumi, IA, lily, iroha or really any vocaloids aside from miku and teto but since they're not popular they always end up using the same two.
No.1747
>>1746True dat
I'd kill for some new Lily stuff, or even RedCUL, but at this point i'm just accepting that unless i make songs with them no one else is going to
No.2057
I noticed a minority on the other side of the fandom on the blue bird website is also sick of it too. The majority of people will ride that MikuTeto meat til its dry and complain about people who want any 'loid other than Miku to succeed (another reason to hate the western fandom ggs) but at least it's not just us and /jp/ that can't see the colors red and blue together.
No.2058
>>2057Yeah i noticed this too earlier www
I'm sick of Miku/Teto together but like
>>1587 said Odochina is very good and i wish nothing but success to the creator
>>1586>literally an "ez views and money glitch" for producersEssentially
No.2059
Forced drama. This is like 5 songs so idgaf
No.2072
>>2059Said songs probably got 300 million views combined lol
No.2096
>>2095Seems like it's time to revive
>>1070 No.2325
Odochina > Mesmerizer.
Tabane Roze is pure sexo and glory to the CCP.
No.3191
I feel bad for 32ki because 32ki is a fantastic producer who has made several fantastic songs, yet people only give Mesmerizer the time of day
No.3195
To comment on a post from the other thread about this:
<ever since mesmerizer blew up i can't help but notice that a lot of the new vocaloid songs coming out follow a similar formula.I was thinking about this the other day and yeah, there are a lot of vocaloid songs cut from the same cloth. The most offensive part to me is the overwhelming focus on the hook. You can have a great hook, but if the rest of the song doesn’t support it, you don’t have an emotional song at all.
And honestly the hook isn’t even good on some of these songs.
At the same time, we’ve seen waves of highly trendy vocaloid songs before. 2012 felt this way. Everyone wanted to be Jin and have a cast of OCs with a story. Half the producers sounded like Suzumu. So I think it might just be a natural consequence of boom periods that derivative work is made.
I would call the “Mesmerizer-like” or “current Mikuteto” body of work a subgenre at this point. Whether it stays or goes in a few years, who knows.
No.3196
>>3195<Everyone wanted to be Jin and have a cast of OCs with a story.can we have some examples? i really liked kagerou project and would love to look into stuff like it
No.3434
Happy birthday mesmerizer
No.4831
I don't hate mesmerizer but i hate the "yellow one that isn't in mesmerizer" meme. Yeah cool, now Neru is everywhere. Now people know Neru and not Haku. It's always "the yellow one" but never "the white one".
No.4913
>>4831i drank a lot a few nights ago and screamed and cried about this to one of my best friends because i miss haku
No.4917
>>4916don't be, haku is #1
No.4929
>>4913How i feel about Aoki Lapis
No.4995
>>1585controversial opinion, and maybe not related
but if this song had teto on it, it would be basically western mesmerizer. just sayin'
No.4996
>>4995I wish i could like this song because I like the art style
No.5004
>>4995i did just tell my friend the other day this song could be a new mesmerizer, but he thought i meant it in the sense it would boom just as much. i just meant both have colorful, nostalgic aesthetics and a theme of escapism, and the scary factor
No.5005
>>4995It is sort of trying to go for that without directly including Teto. Mesmerizer basically changed everything in the vocaloid scene when it came out so i don't see why the western side would be an exception.
No.5016
>>4996Agreed, the art is the strongest part by far. Musically it is weak. Mesmerizer isn’t perfect but this one isn’t strong enough to put in the same bucket. You can’t call it mesmerizer-like just because it has a good video.
Granted I’m biased since the lyrical content and themes triggered my autism.
>>5005>Mesmerizer basically changed everything in the vocaloid sceneCurious that you mean by this.
No.5017
>>5016I'm saying there's a before and after with Mesmerizer. Post-mesmerizer a lot of songs are more fast paced than they were before, use Miku/Teto, have some sort of viral dance and use channel commissioned (Zaako) or channel-like (CCC) art styles.
No.6841
>>3434It's a year old already?
No.6842
>>6841That's how i felt when i found out that Lagtrain is 5 years old already
No.7024
It really is the "cheat code" for an instant hit huh
No.12480
Is it me or things are slowly returning to normal? MikuTeto stuff is still being made and the current #1 song is a MikuTeto song but I'm starting to see more songs with other voicebanks.
>>6842>You will live to see lagtrain become 10 years old No.14407
>>14403I want Gumi to be popular again but i said the same thing about Teto way back before her SV existed and look where we're at
Be careful what you wish for
No.14410
>>14405You have CircusP come back and have him make her dance with Miku in front of a yellow background.
No.14411
>>2059It was just 5 songs.
Then it was 6.
And then it was more than i could count.
No.14417
>>14403Daikirai is great tbh
No.14419
>>14410Ill take it honestly. I miss him.
No.14420
>>3434It'll be 2 by the end of this year
No.14421
>>14419Same here. I'll take CircusP doing Mikuteto than no CircusP at all.
No.27452
>>27437Misread this as castration and was really confused