No.14132
Low pitch Kafu
No.14140
Used to prefer low-pitch Rin, but can't imagine her as anything other than high-pitched Miku now since the only new neru exposure I got for years was OwataP.
No.14142
I think low pitched Rin suits her more than high pitched Miku considering she's grumpy and a bit of a hothead
No.14143
I'm a low Rin truther
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No.14145
>>14132Has the low pitch Kafu been used for anything other than those Mesmerizer videos?
No.14163
>>14161I hear more Rin than Miku here
No.14167
>>14165i need context, wtf is going on here
No.14168
>>14167Neru being chased by an angry vendor in Brazil after stealing leeks
No.14172
>>14167it's a joke taken from another video where a guy in a bike follows someone on the street yelling "it was you! come here!" and the person started running for their life thinking the guy on the bike was from a cartel
No.14198
>>14165What is Neru doing in Brazil
No.14211
>>14161this is the most neru sounding voice i've heard for neru. wish this person had their settings listed.
No.14220
>>14165If they just casually have nerus walking around like this im going to brazil
No.14233
>>14165First you get her out of the screen
Then we talk
No.14350
Low pitched Rin even though I've only heard the Miku one in OwataP's songs
No.14549
>>14165Well, did she do it?
No.14550
>>14549Yeah, Neru is wanted in all of Brazil for her crimes
No.14969
Low pitched Rin. I know that Gocha Gocha Urusee and more recently Zako use High pitched Miku but Neru is the grumpy type, I can't imagine her with a high voice.
No.14970
>>14161This one seems like a perfect balance
No.14971
>>14165This is like seeing bigfoot footage
No.14979
High pitched miku
No.15116
Funny how everyone here seems to prefer Rin but the most used voice is actually Miku
No.15370
>>15369This sounds a lot like OwataP's old stuff. I like it.
No.15394
I love Nell
No.15401
>>15369This was definitely made by an Umamusume fan
No.15620
Always wondered why Neru was high pitch Miku instead of low pitch like Haku
No.17464
Low pitch Rin fits her design but i guess high pitch Miku is the one people are most familiar with due to all the songs
No.17493
I have been wondering a while now what Neru would sound like if it was a midpoint of both like how Rei's voicebank was made.
No.17495
>>17494I am not sure since it sounds like some kind of mixing technique.
No.17597
>>17497I had always wished that she got a voice of her own. She could have been the first Adachi Rei but with dial tones. Perhaps being a pitchloid makes more sense to keep the connection with Miku clearer though. Smith Hioka-san if you ever see this please respond if you had considered this before.
No.17629
>>17597Not him, but i think the reason there's no Neru voicebank is because you already have multiple options: there's high pitched Miku, low pitched Rin, fanmade voicebanks like NEO, etc
No.17636
>>17597We don't need an official voicebank
No.17648
neru daki when
No.17670
>>17648You can ask the man himself next sunday
No.17671
>>17597This might not be the answer you were hoping for, but until very recently, I felt that I didn't have the authority to decide anything regarding Akita Neru's voice.
To begin with, even though her outfit is based on Hatsune Miku, I didn't intend to create a "Vocaloid" (vocal synth) character at the time. I considered her to be more of a "gijinka" (personification) character.
Later, when people started using pitch manipulation to give her a voice, I decided it was best to leave that to the creators' imagination, so I avoided commenting on it myself.
Above all, as the person who drew her, I honestly didn't have a concrete image of what her voice should sound like.
So, for me, whether it was a "pitchloid" voice or the dial tones heard in "Triple Baka," I saw them both as valid ways to express Neru. I didn't see one as superior to the other.
I am, of course, conscious of her connection to Miku, but I never felt her voice had to be based on Miku's. This is because Akita Neru is treated strictly as a visual work (in legal terms, an "artistic work").
Sorry for the long reply, but to answer your question about whether I had considered a mechanical voice concept: the answer is that I never actually had a plan to make her into a singing software in the first place.
No.17672
Hioka are you constantly checking /leek/? You always show up within minutes of being mentioned
No.17679
>>17672That might be a bit of an exaggeration.
I sometimes reply when I happen to notice, but I’m sure I miss things as well.
No.17698
NEO is the closest thing we'll probably get to a Neru voicebank. It's not official, but as far as I know it seems to have Hioka's blessing.
I think this voice fits her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-RwfAIta0 No.17701
>>17698Isn't this an RVC of Flower and Rin?
No.17705
>>177011.0 was, but they got a real voice provider for 2.0
No.17713
>>17698A DiffSinger is being made for the NEO voicebank btw
No.17721
>>17671Very interesting, thank you.
No.17722
>>14148VY1 being used as Neru's voice?
That's a new one
No.17836
>>17636If someone made a voicebank it wouldnt stop anyone from still doing things as always so the variety will always be there. I could see Neru winding up with many competing voicebanks and pitchings used.
No.17838
I could see Neru working as an UTAU
No.18114
>>18113It's actually on Saturday outside the EU and Asia
No.18116
>>17816I associate her most with low pitched Rin
No.18136
>>18113Posting Neru ass... while her father is lurking... how dare you?
No.18556
Tonight is the night
No.21633
>>21604Neru's nerus
Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again No.24323
Can't believe there's still people out there who want an official Neru voicebank
No.24443
>>14220all of the vocaloids are real and they live in third world countries kinda like how in the 5th transformers movies all the remaining autobots are in Cuba
No.24444
>>24443Haku is indonesian
No.25245
does hioka still lurk
No.25411
>>25245He still posts occasionally
No.25697
>>17671Are you proud of how far your creation has come? From a 2ch inside joke to a character that's recognized worldwide by Vocaloid fans and was even featured in the official console games.
No.25707
>>25697Of course, I’m proud of her.
At the same time, I try to be careful not to let that go to my head, or to think of it as something I accomplished on my own.
The fact that so many people have come to know her is thanks to CFM, who agreed to such a generous arrangement, the creators who continue to make fan works, and the many Neru fans who have supported her.
As for me, I think I was simply blessed with a level of good fortune far beyond what I deserve.
No.25719
>>25707>As for me, I think I was simply blessed with a level of good fortune far beyond what I deserve.I love this guy
No.25720
>>25709The fishnets make NEO's design very Ero. It makes me want to lick her.
No.25726
>>25720what are you a cat?
No.25902
I'm not a huge fan of NEO tbh. The voice sounds good, but it doesn't feel like Neru to me...
No.25906
>>25902Neru doesn't have a canon voice so her voice is whatever you want it to be. Some like NEO's voice, others don't. Personally, I'm a low pitch Rin guy but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.
No.25909
>>25902She sounds very latina but i don't have a problem with it
No.25910
>>25909her voice provider is mexican i'm pretty sure
No.25914
>>25906This is why I thought it would be amusing to find a way to blend all the voicebanks associated most with Neru to make a sort of generic Neru that most agree sounds like Neru. If that makes sense.
No.25915
>>25914The original NEO 1.0 voicebank was a mix of Rin and Flower that was generated with RVC AI. But now that makes me wonder what that would sound like if you did it with literally every Vocaloid ever release.
No.25921
>>25910But Neru we all know Neru is Brazilian:
>>14165 No.25924
>>25921She was just visiting the country dw
No.25941
>>25922Small because we already got Haku
No.25997
>>25919Looking like Cyber Diva
Your fortune: Very Bad Luck No.26004
>>25933Does that apply to both at same time?
No.26359
>>25919Cyber Neru?
Akita Diva?
No.26831
Was it ever revealed what DEN2 means? I know its been asked in Hioka's Q&A's here but he was hesitant to answer. Is it some sort of 2channel inside joke?.
No.26832
>>25919Reminds me of Panty from PSG
No.26842
>>26831Unconfirmed but rumored to be Dentsu Company like that other anon said
No.26857
>>24443Does that mean I can casually find Flower walking around Thailand or something
No.26863
>>26857Flower would live in Chile methinks
No.26865
>>26863Why Chile specifically
No.26869
>>26865there's a lot of women with that kind of short colored hair there compared to other latin american countries i've visited
No.26876
>>24443So IA lives in Argentina actually? Would explain why she'd pick Argentina for a random concert.
No.26877
Kaito is a proud Filipino
No.26878
>>26869So if i go to chile i can get a cute punk tomboy wife? fuck it im moving there
No.26880
>>26878Ehh, not exactly
No.26884
>>26876She's pale and depressed so probably Uruguay
No.26885
>>26884IA isn't depressed she just doesn't express much emotion
No.27593
I'm curious if there have been any attempts at creating a definitive Neru voicebank before NEO.
No.27595
>>27593Not that i'm aware of. Hioka has said this many times, but Neru was never meant to have a voice in the first place, she was intended as a gijinka/personification of the Miku censorship drama from back in the day. So he's never given her a "canon voice".
I'd say NEO is the first attempt at giving her an actual voice but even with Smith Hioka's approval it's still a non canon voice and fanmade on top of that.
No.27681
>>25919ok yeah i can se why people say she looks like cyber diva
No.29101
>>26831Dentsu, supposedly
No.29522
I like that Hioka has the ability to show up when you least expect him.
No.29523
>>29522apparently Neru was created when he was 22 years old, which would make him 40 now since its been 18 years since 2007.
No.29719
>>29523>its been 18 years since 2007.Nah it is still 2007. You're dreaming.
No.29749
>>29593That’s right!🧔♂️
Even if I had been 17 back then, the same age as Neru, I would be 35 now. So either way, I’d still end up being an Ojisan...🥲
And if I had been a teenager when I drew Neru, I’m sure I would have managed to ruin all kinds of things
Looking back on those days, I can say that with confidence 😭
I was still immature at 22, but I had at least gained some sense of judgment.
There were also negotiations that were only possible because I was already an adult.
So in the end, I guess it all worked out.
No.29750
>>29749I guess it doesn't hurt to ask but, do you know anything about Starry Party?
No.29753
>>29750Just like everyone else, I only found out when it was announced!
No.29754
>>29750Correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't Crypton and GoodSmile be able to put Neru in it without asking Hioka directly?
Because if so, it makes sense that he doesn't know much about it, it was kind of a surprise announcement.
No.29757
>>29749ur our favorite ojisan
No.29765
>>29749I know you don't post here too often but when you do it's always something insightful and its been nice learning about Neru and early Vocaloid community from someone so important on the Japanese side of it.
No.29772
>>29756>>29762Happens to the best of us
No.29845
>>29754As far as I could tell from the information available, I did not find anything about Neru appearing in Starry Party.
At most, I only saw some speculation that derivative characters might appear.
Regarding the use of Neru in commercial projects, there is an agreement that approval from both CFM and myself is required.
So unfortunately, in practice, it is not really possible for there to be a “surprise” situation where I only find out at the same time as the public announcement.
No.29848
>>29756You don’t need to be afraid of getting older.
The more you broaden your horizons, the richer life becomes.
At least for me, both the things I expected and the things I never saw coming keep stimulating my intellectual curiosity,
so I’m really enjoying life!
>>29757Thanks
>>29765Thank you, truly.
But be careful.
It might just be some old guy who usually gets ignored by everyone, saying things that only sound meaningful on the internet👴💻
No.29850
>>29848Hey, 40 is not old
No.29854
>>29845Yeah, earlier in the thread people were speculating about potential DLC characters with Neru being one of them due to her inclusion in the Diva series
(and Gumi because she's in Mirai)I'm guessing that if Neru were to be in the game you wouldn't know until she was announced then? Interesting how that works
No.29860
>>2975631 is still pretty young either way. Don't call yourself old till your hair is white.
No.29881
>>29854If Neru were to appear in a game, I would know about it long before the official announcement.
Naturally, that is because for such a project to move forward officially, both CFM and I would need to agree to grant the license.
So for several months, or even more than a year, I would have to shut the curtains in my room, live in fear that someone might be listening in, suffer from nightmares every night, and spend my days in lonely silence...
Well, that part is a joke, but I would absolutely never leak anything to the outside.
If I truly had no idea that Neru was going to appear until it was announced to the public, that would be a “surprise” for me in a rather bad sense.
Basically, I do not reject offers that have cleared CFM’s standards, but even so, we would still need to confirm and discuss it as a procedural issue.
That said, even if something like that were to happen, I do not think it would turn into a public accusation or dispute. And very fortunately, no such trouble has ever happened so far.
No.29890
>>2987330's are just 20's but with extra steps
No.30062
>>30061and Sakine, and Len, and a couple others
No.30063
>>30061I hope Hioka has seen this lol
No.30116
Now i wonder if there's any Vocaloid producers or artists in their 50's
No.30123
>>30116I think the guy who made Holy Star is around that old now
No.30124
>>30123Just looked him up and it seems like he's retired now
No.30131
>>30124Yeah, unfortunately. He's the only relatively popular guy I can think of. There's also a club called オサーン卍ボカロ連合 for producers over 50
No.30223
>>30131Imagine if your dad was a VocaP
No.30232
>>30223One day it's gonna happen to me, but i don't know if I'll still be a VocaP by the time i have kids
No.30279
>>30116As far as I know, one of the oldest Vocaloid producers was Masa-P. He was born in 1933—93 years ago.
To put 1933 into perspective, Adolf Hitler’s cabinet was formed in Germany at the end of January, Franklin D. Roosevelt was inaugurated as the 32nd president of the United States, and the original King Kong was released that same year.
He uploaded his first song, “Hana wa Kazarenai,” to Nico Nico Douga in 2012, when he was 79 years old.
He was a professional composer who had been active since the 1960s under the name Masao Saiki. His song “Nagasaki wa Kyō mo Ame Datta,” released in 1969, remains extremely well known among generations who remember that era.
You can listen to the song here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKQfa2MpvOcSadly, he passed away in 2022, but the wonderful Vocaloid songs he left behind can still be heard today. You can listen to several of them in this YouTube playlist:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m1i8lAEXNQDJ1Bmd8SRAaHBQDge2ETQwII recommend listening through all of them, but my personal favorites are “Yofuke no Lullaby,” “Kanashimi no Córdoba,” “Hana no Nai Heya,” and “Koi wa 1970.”
No.30282
>>30279I knew that Vocaloid was popular with the newer generations but I never expected it to resonate with any generation before the Millennials.
Maybe perception is different in Japan but over here it's one of those things that adults (over the age of 40, usually) struggle comprehending or they completely dismiss it as "fake music".
No.30293
>>30279I was aware of him (unfortunately discovered him through the "deceased" page on VocaDB, as morbid as that may sound) but i wasn't aware that he was in his 80's when he passed.
No.30338
>>30279Interesting. Thank you for the recommendation Hioka-san, I'll listen to it.
No.30355
>>30279Listening to these is making me start to realize just how few Vocaloid originals I've heard in this kind of genre outside of covers. It's cool hearing something that sounds so authentically 'oldschool' while featuring Miku.
No.30358
>>30279This is really good. RIP.
No.30360
>>30355There's a lot of unique sounding Vocaloid stuff that never seems to leave the depths of NicoNico or even YouTube. I wish there was a proper way to discover small producers aside from VocaDB and events like Vocacolle/Vocagathering.
No.30371
>>30360We have threads for that but they've been kinda inactive as of late
No.30433
I'm thinking Hioka should be teaching Vocaloid History classes at 39chan School
No.30435
>>30433History classes with Hioka sensei
No.30597
>>30279Something about Hioka casually mentioning Franklin D. Roosevelt, Hitler and King Kong in the same sentence is funny to me
No.30607
>>30433That's one class Project Sekai fans are never passing
No.31108
When are we getting that official Neru bodypillow
No.31468
>>31466Why is Haku more expensive
No.31488
>>31468That Haku has optional bonus faceplates. They both have 2 listings, with and without the bonus.
No.31493
>>31488Those more expensive listings come with all the faces, but you can also just buy them directly, two at a time if you don't want them all here
https://nendoroidfacemaker.com/ No.31786
Where can i find Hioka's old oekaki art?
No.31843
>>31831>puchi mikuI haven't seen her in so long
No.31865
>>31787I wonder if his 2channel artwork was ever archived. 4chan has its own archive sites run by users but Japan has different views regarding media preservation so i wonder if anything like that even exists.
No.32427
>>32406Why have these been so many ungodly cute officially licensed Neru plushies lately? My bank account can't take it.
Your fortune: Bad Luck No.32428
>>32427To drain your bank account in particular
No.32562
>>32406Great time to be a Neru fan, shes so cute!