No.10610
i've got that optimistic side that thinks it will but idk, the current team got fucked over massively and it sucks. i hope that if maghni does crash and burn they are at least able to release their voicebanks on a different engine.
No.10613
>>10610>if maghni does crash and burnI believe Vocatone still owns the rights to both VBs and characters so even if the project fell apart they could still do something with them
No.10614
>>10609i hope so, but it's starting to seem unlikely. at the very least, i hope their progress becomes open source or something like that.
No.10615
We're gonna get Maghni AI before a new Lily voicebank lol
No.10616
>>10613There's also a bunch of non-Vocatone voicebanks, no idea what's happening with those. I think the engine devs have SAWTOWNE's voicebanks at least?
No.10617
>>10616Sawtowne has a voicebank?
No.10618
I admittedly care more about the Zero-G 'loids than the PFX ones but I've already accepted that they will never be upgraded. They had a chance with Sonika in 2018 but Yamaha did a Yamaha and ZG said fuck it no more vocaloids.
No.10620
>>10619Never realized Saw was behind those
No.10666
i want sonika ai
No.10667
>>10614I believe one of the devs said if they stop working on it, then they plan to make their portion of the work open source, so there's that at least.
No.11341
The Half Life 3 of vocalsynths
No.11519
I still have faith
No.11561
My question is: if Maghni AI fails does that mean it's officially over for English vocaloids? SynthV ones like Natalie and Solaria are not a concert since they're recent and still supported but in the case of pretty much every Zero-G loid and (in the chance Maghni is cancelled) PFXloids, are they forever stuck on those obsolete engines?
No.11565
>>11561Ruby would probably still be released as a DiffSinger bank
No.11576
>>11565They would only be able to do this if Vocatone itself dies
No.11580
>>11561I'm still upset over the fact that Miriam Stockley wanted to upgrade her voicebank but Zero-G didn't want to
No.11598
>>11580V1 era Vocaloids are basically dead (except kaito and meiko because Crypton owns them)
No.11600
>>10619Does he voice the bear
No.11615
>>11614this is the gayest thing i've seen in my entire life
No.11616
>>11614I don't know how to explain this but he sounds like if someone made Ant Clemons into a Vocaloid
No.11816
>>11561>>11562short answer: yes
No.11831
I just hope i get to hear Big Al again in my lifetime
No.11852
>>11561afaik yes
They're the only company left from the Vocaloid era
No.11856
I wouldn’t say it’s the end, though I definitely don’t see a new English company going into V6 unless it’s a passion project
No.11857
>>11856Eclipsed Sounds is carrying Engloids right now but most people ITT were referring to companies from the V1-4 era.
No.12102
Maghni AI will come out before SynthU
No.12891
>>11856SV is probably more profitable for them anyway
No.13721
>>11614He's got a nice voice but god damn this is extremely gay
No.13722
>>11856i hope the guys who run the toriko thing eventually release a commercial leekaloid but as far as i know they're non profit and will likely keep it that way
No.13761
>>13722impossible for a leekaloid to go commercial. especially on a japanese engine.
No.13763
>>13762First of all: we're a niche imageboard for vocaloid fans. Yes, we are active but we're not nearly as big or relevant as 2chan or even 4chan are. It's highly unlikely that Japanese companies would even be willing to reach out to loser gaijins like us for a voicebank, and with Vox Soft being indie I don't think they'd be able to afford all the shit you need to have your own voicebank on an engine.
As for the only English engine out there: I doubt the Maghni AI devs would be willing to associate with a site with similar culture to 4chan. We have a tendency to not give a shit about things the western Vocaloid community considers sacred: that's why KAFU SV got leaked here, that's why we have a piracy discussion thread, that's why people here aren't ashamed of saying they like Shota Shota Island. And I know not everyone here has the same views on those things, 39chan isn't a collective mindset. But cmon do you really think any western producer or company would be willing to work with a website that's seen as "4chan but vocaloid"?.
No.13765
>>13763>We have a tendency to not give a shit about things the western Vocaloid community considers sacredIs it really any different on 2chan? Don't they have a board for piracy?
No.13766
>>13765he's not talking about the Japanese websites.
he's referring to how people here don't care about what the wvf thinks because everyone here is anon and can say whatever the hell they want.
No.13767
also i don't think the community is dumb enough to think that 39chan is a group of people with the same thoughts and values. besides it has been recognized by a couple notable individuals in it.
No.13768
>>13761>>13763Personally I'm glad we don't have any leekas on commercial engines and that they aren't mainstream. The Teto-ification of TORIKO would have disastrous consequences on both this website and the overall Vocaloid community. I want the leeaks to still belong to us.
No.13770
>>13768The diff is good enough methinks
No.13904
>>13785I highly doubt we'll ever see leekas on commercial engines for the reasons this anon listed here
>>13763The Japanese community barely knows we exist, the single "studio" to come out of this board is indie and broke, and the Western community probably sees this site as nazi Germany given the ties to 4chan.
No.13905
>>13904Lol no. I can assure you that the majority of the western community that knows about 39chan doesn't care about it. The site's not big enough to have a reputation like that and the ties to 4chan you mention are very minor.
Your fortune: Bad Luck No.13913
>>13904Ah yes because 2ch definitely has a squeaky clean reputation
No.13914
>>13905This
Few western producers know about this site and the ones who do, don't really care about it at all
No.14005
>>13915I do predict that something will happen this year but it won't be the engine's release. I don't think we're gonna see that til the end of the 2020s with some sort of beta launching before the final version.
And yes I am pulling this out my ass, no one knows anything about Maghni's current status.
No.17703
>>17680I do hope that they succeed. I like the idea of a western vocal-synth, especially one that brings back beloved voicebanks from that era like Oliver. It'd be a big shame if it never came out.
No.17783
>>17703The other "western" Vocal synth is SynthV, which if I'm not mistaken is actually Chinese but has a couple teams developing ENGloids for it.
No.17789
>>17783Basically no one remembers but Kanru used to live in America. That's why Eleanor was the first SynthV
No.19565
>>19564anon, we can't even train diffsingers what makes you think we can make a vocal synth from scratch
No.19571
>>19564Thinking we can do this at all is delusional lol
No.24511
>>24510>It's an empty box with instructionsOh
No.24515
>>24509I told you guys we'd get an update on Maghni this year. But on a serious note, why are they shipping out the voicebank boxes but not the software itself?. Is it to generate hype?.
No.24523
>>24515It’s just so backers can at least receive some compensation for their contribution because we’re sadly likely not getting our money back (it’s all been spent).
They started shipping orders back after the debacle in October, that said only 7 orders have been shipped so far rn.
No.24524
>>24523On strippers and alcohol like Ant Simulator?
No.24526
>>24524lol supposedly it all went to where they said it went to but I’m not entirely sure it’s the full story. Especially since their programmer supposedly left. I won’t lie, everything I’ve heard rumour mill wise since last year has been a disaster. I reasonably can’t say everything because if something is true I wouldn’t want to get anyone in trouble. All I can say is I’ve almost completely lost faith in the project.
No.24542
>>24509Well what's inside it?
No.24558
>>24542According to someone on Twitter it's instructions on how to download it when Maghni releases
Pic not mine
No.24559
>>24558imagine if it doesnt release so now you're stuck with the box
No.24565
>>24558They totally ordered all the boxes before finishing the project and didn’t know what to do with them.
No.24567
>>24565damn. yknow im a bit concerned about whatever the hell happens if they dont finish the project.
No.24571
How would you guys fix Maghni?
No.24595
>>10613In the hypothetical situation that Maghni does fail wouldn't they be able to put the old voicebanks back on sale?
No.24599
>>24595can they even do that
No.24628
>>24558>buy voicebank>open box>its fucking paperwhat even is the point of buying physical voicebanks anymore if they're basically empty? and this isn't even a maghni issue, i've seen other engines do this
No.24629
>>24628You will own nothing and you will be happy
No.24637
>>24558This is one of the most wasteful and useless ways to sell a product Ive yet to see. If they were doing that why not just use small cards to sell with the activation code? Or does the box include a user manual?
>>24628Who else is doing it? Might be a response to how many laptops lack a disc drive now.
No.24638
>>24637Even more useless when you realize that the software this is meant to be for isn't even out yet and there's a chance that it won't come out in the first place
No.24639
>>24637>Might be a response to how many laptops lack a disc drive now.Such a stupid change. Who's the smartass who decided that disc drives were obsolete?.
No.24640
>>24639I do not like ot either. I could explain more but this is getting into enshitification thread territory.
No.24641
>>24559Tbh I fully expect this to happen.
>>24595No, PowerFX would have the power to do that, and as we know PFX is out of the business.
>>24637Crypton, 1st Place, anyone on VoiSona with a physical, Voicemith, and a handful of others on V6. So it’s 100% related to the lack of disc drives. That said some of the companies at least include merchandise to make up for the lack of disc like VoiSona. Then of course you have the SV2 physicals that have a disc but are pointless to begin with because you have to download the bank from the cloud in editor anyways.
No.24642
>>24641They should do what they did with the PS3 port of Portal 2 where it included a disc for your PS3 and a code so you could have it on Steam as well.
No.24644
>>24642This is basically the case for some physicals with discs these days. If you reach out to support as well, usually they’re happy to send the respective installer as well. So it’s possible to get away with not using the disc at all before factoring in fan managed archives. Basically these days it’s more about having a physical backup more than anything.
No.24649
>>24628Some people buy the boxes just to have them and don't do anything with it
No.24653
>>24649I hate that so much
No.24835
Just saw on VocaDB that Ruby's site is gone. Is it actually over?
No.24836
>>24835I had to go look myself and see what you mean. The domain is indeed expired. Vrilliant was assumed who’d be handling Ann and Al too.
I’m not entirely certain what happened here. I do have a few ideas ranging from simply not renewing the domain to a company shut down but after the announcement I’d be surprised that they didn’t leave a statement.
There is one particular thing I am aware of that could very well be a factor, however I’m not sure if I should divulge…
At the rate things are deteriorating I am actually praying this project gets cancelled… It feels like every bit of new information that surfaces, public or not, just screams worse than hell.
No.24837
Really hate saying I just keep loosing faith atp… As much as I’d like my stuff, I’d like my money back too but I’m not expecting a refund anytime soon…
No.24838
>>24835>>24836If only you knew how bad things really are
No.24843
>>24837Don't worry you'll get an empty box
No.24844
>>24836I think this happens during acquisitions sometimes so that may also be possible but usually announcements are made for those.
No.24848
>>24844There was a bunch of corporate restructuring once the original team left. Best case scenario would be Vrilliant merging with Oliver's team, I guess? It's not looking good tho
No.24850
>>24848Worst case is vaporware scam
No.24851
How long has the site been down for?
No.24853
>>24851Not sure, haven't seen anyone else report it. I'd be willing to bet that it happened while the thread was dead.
No.24854
Maybe Maghni AI was the friends we made along the way
No.24862
>>24853What thread? This one?
No.24874
>>24838Believe me when I say I have a better idea that it seems…😓There’s just a lot I don’t say because I don’t want to get people in trouble.
>>24848This bit is a good example as to what I was alluding to because it didn’t just affect Ruby but actually affects Oliver as well, so merging isn’t necessarily the solution here.
>>24873The dev team/company (not sure if registered as one), in charge of the Maghni version of Ruby aka Rvby.
No.24875
I am very much at odds with myself because on one hand I do feel it’s important that people know as it’s becoming more and more relevant as time progresses but also I don’t want to get friends who are dear to me in trouble.
It is really tearing me apart, so if there is anyone on the Maghni team reading this (and I hope one of them are reading this), please come forward and share all the problems behind the scenes that are halting further developments, updates, and keeping everyone silent. I really can’t take this anymore and it’s driving me crazy and tearing me apart. It went from too much transparency to none at all. It’s been almost 6 years, it’s time for the veil to break. I am on my knees…🙏😓
No.24876
>>24875I don't think a Maghni employee would go on 39chan of all places. Though at the same time if they did they could possibly get away with spilling the beans since a lot of "important" people use 4chan in similar ways, to reveal confidential stuff and leak source codes, etc. It's be a matter of choosing to believe the anon or not.
No.24877
>>24875Why do you think any of them are here?
No.24878
>>24876>>24877NTA but just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean that it can't
No.24879
>>24876It would be pretty hard to remain anon when Maghni is like, five people
No.24880
>>24835I feel bad for Rubybros
No.24910
>>24877Idk if any of them would be here or not, all I can say is a good handful of these people have been fans as long as me but partook in older fandom spaces like VO.
It’s also like, I know very well that some vsynth devs (globally, not specifically western) actually do lurk a lot more fandom spaces than we often realize. So it’s more an off-chance and sort of vent type thing. I’m just tired…
No.24912
>>24910I feel like 39chan's a bit niche for it to be noticed by the big names but the creator of Neru himself is a frequent poster here so idk, I could be wrong.
No.24913
>>24879I wouldn’t say 5. It is still a small team. Idk how many are currently part of the team and who’s left for sure and who’s stayed on, but the number of people actively working keeps changing. So there is a chance that if a team member were to come forward it could be someone who isn’t publicly known and only the team could narrow it down.
It’s pretty easy to tell a majority of the issues boils down to poor management just from a surface level perspective. I can’t say which people have left, but there have been public faces that have left according to my own reliable sources. I don’t remember if it was mentioned in this thread before by myself or someone else but I recall back in October when people started getting vocal about things, that some people who were previously commissioned by the team stated the programmer (who I believe is still listed on the site) left the company.
No.24914
>>24912It's not as obscure and niche as some people here make it seem. A small part of the western fandom is already aware of the Leekaloids even if they don't post here (similar to how we know the Vipperloids but don't post on 2ch). Hioka has also done two Q&As here which has made the site more "visible" in a way.
Besides 39chan doesn't have the same rep as other imageboards like 4chan where it's generally seen as this evil hideout for nazis and fappers so it's probably more accessible to people who normally don't use these types of sites.
No.24915
>>24914I learned about 39 after I heard about Canon mentioning recording naked in that one q&a and after I lurked as an anon for a good while I got the vibe that we were all old coots in terms of vocafans who just wanted a comfy place to properly converse about our favourite subject. That alone is much more attractive than some other spaces these days.
No.24995
>>24914I don't doubt that some important people lurk this site but they're unlikely to post. I do think it would be funny if they pull a Trevor Moore and show up under a thread talking about them lol.
No.25042
>>24995>Trevor MooreWhat did Trevor do